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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-26-2020, 08:42 AM - Thread Starter
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Help me tweek this build

I'm helping a friend build a new PC, and so far the only things he's told me he really cares about, is being able to have [email protected] and [email protected] (although I think he's gonna actually want [email protected] too)

This is what I've got picked out for him so far (the case is placeholder to get better idea on the price) - anything you think should be tweeked, or which parts are overkill/not enough to bring the price up/down? I have a feeling like the gpu he wants is overkill but wasn't 100% sure as I do all my gaming at 1080 not 4k.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-26-2020, 12:18 PM
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Stick with a 400 series board if you dont plan on getting a 3000 series CPU

You dont need a 750 watt for that build its way overkill and a 550 watt is more than enough power
Besides that the Seasonic Focus is a better option and its way more quiet https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focu...quicklink=true

The CPU cooler is garbage and you are better off with the stock cooler instead of a tiny 120mm rad CLC cooler
Another option is getting a low profile air cooler from either Be Quiet or Noctua

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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-27-2020, 02:53 PM
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Leave the stock cooler. For 60hz and stock clocks it's more than enough and anyway the CLC you chose it's garbage.
PSU it's too big and inecesarily expensive. Board can be a b450m mortar max at $95. It will still allow you to use most 3000 series at their full potential.
Change GPU to a 2070super, with the 200 bucks you saved from the changes i mentioned.
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-27-2020, 03:02 PM
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Agreeing fully here
Mortar (the tiny tomahawk version) is adequate enough for 3rd gen and for 2nd gen
Although now buying 2nd gen, idk
AMD has a public pricedrop on Amazon com for their whole 3rd gen lineup , ranging between 50-120$ drops
it might be an option to focus on a 3600 or 3700

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this are too high requests while the build settles for high latency 3200 MT/s ram
Swap them to the new Crucial Ballistix kits (not the sport LT) would be a recommendation

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Quote: Originally Posted by Shenhua View Post
Leave the stock cooler. For 60hz and stock clocks it's more than enough and anyway the CLC you chose it's garbage.
PSU it's too big and inecesarily expensive. Board can be a b450m mortar max at $95. It will still allow you to use most 3000 series at their full potential.
Change GPU to a 2070super, with the 200 bucks you saved from the changes i mentioned.
Quote: Originally Posted by Veii View Post
Agreeing fully here
Mortar (the tiny tomahawk version) is adequate enough for 3rd gen and for 2nd gen
Although now buying 2nd gen, idk
AMD has a public pricedrop on Amazon com for their whole 3rd gen lineup , ranging between 50-120$ drops
it might be an option to focus on a 3600 or 3700

[email protected] even with a 2070 Super, will make you a hard time
this are too high requests while the build settles for high latency 3200 MT/s ram
Swap them to the new Crucial Ballistix kits (not the sport LT) would be a recommendation

you guys are recommending mATX boards, OP is building ITX.

you can get a 1TB WD Blue M.2 for $3 less and you won't have to mount a drive and run a power/data cable to it. Otherwise you can get a Crucial BX500 2.5" 1TB and save $10.

+1 for drop the AIO, it's not a good one and it's not going to do anything for you that a good air cooler can't. use the stock cooler if the MO is to save money like what was already mentioned, otherwise grab a cheap ~$20-$30 cooler and you'd be better off.

drop the X570 for a B450.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card
Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case ($119.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $472.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-27 18:07 EDT-0400

swapped the RAM for 3600, same timings but 400mhz faster. likely won't get 3600 on a 2700, but if you upgrade to 3rd gen you can and while on 2nd gen you can just drop the timings and run 3200. the same kit exact kit comes in white and it comes in red too if you rather have that than black, they're all the same price.

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Can still be tweaked you can downgrade to 2060 and get a cooler as the stock cooler is enough for now.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
you guys are recommending mATX boards, OP is building ITX.



you can get a 1TB WD Blue M.2 for $3 less and you won't have to mount a drive and run a power/data cable to it. Otherwise you can get a Crucial BX500 2.5" 1TB and save $10.



+1 for drop the AIO, it's not a good one and it's not going to do anything for you that a good air cooler can't. use the stock cooler if the MO is to save money like what was already mentioned, otherwise grab a cheap ~$20-$30 cooler and you'd be better off.



drop the X570 for a B450.



PCPartPicker Part List



CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ B&H)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($92.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Crucial BX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card

Case: NZXT H210i Mini ITX Tower Case ($119.99 @ B&H)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Total: $472.96

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-27 18:07 EDT-0400



swapped the RAM for 3600, same timings but 400mhz faster. likely won't get 3600 on a 2700, but if you upgrade to 3rd gen you can and while on 2nd gen you can just drop the timings and run 3200. the same kit exact kit comes in white and it comes in red too if you rather have that than black, they're all the same price.
You are right. The RAM kit choice it's excellent, ive got some of those to play with, and ryzen 2000 like them very much, and it's also cheap.
However, I don't agree with the h210, it's expensive and just as almost all H series from nzxt. They're good looking and trash at thermals and the 210 it's pretty much hitting mATX case size. There's cheaper better cases out there, like cougar QBX.
Also the power supply can be cheaper, much cheaper. Gigabyte g650h/g750h it's one of the best budget Power supplies going for around 60 bucks.
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
you guys are recommending mATX boards, OP is building ITX.

swapped the RAM for 3600, same timings but 400mhz faster. likely won't get 3600 on a 2700, but if you upgrade to 3rd gen you can and while on 2nd gen you can just drop the timings and run 3200. the same kit exact kit comes in white and it comes in red too if you rather have that than black, they're all the same price.
Yep because he said the case is a placeholder for price not more - but the 2700 has no price, unsure
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fvs33t nearly identical list to his, just the tomahawks and mortars seems to have sold out because of shipment lockdown
HP EX950 seems to be a good compromise between price and perf
looked at the crucial MX500 , but it's sata
Sata for m.2 is a bit of waste, even more when the difference is only 10 bucks between nvme and sata
changed the case to corresponding option + going for a B&W build, as some like nzxt cases (i'm not one but why not)

Fans i'm in a bit of conflicting position
Either he gets an alphacool or swiftech AIO - soo HP (high pressure) series would be better
Oor he let's that room unused, where high airflow HF - ones would make more sense
Anywho, board should add range between 98-120$ up to when it comes back

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3600XMP can run on 2nd gen , the Asus X370 Prime pro run it without issues
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I would like to see a review of that Gigabyte PSU series before i would ever recommend it
There is zero info on the OEM the voltage regulation and ripple suppression and without those i would not trust it to power a toaster

Looking at the price i can already say its not going to be all that good so no i would NOT recommend that Gigabyte PSU buy a Corsair CXM if you are looking for something decent and affordable

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Thanks for the feedback guys, I already made some adjustments and have a different thread about the current build. If a mod or something wants to close this one they can.

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