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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 03-28-2020, 10:37 AM - Thread Starter
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PC sometimes posts but mostly dosn't

So I've had an issue for the past few weeks where my pc will not boot the fans will speed up but not rev down the LEDs on the motherboard will someone but no after that nothing happens no display and when I turn it off bu holding the power button the red LEDs on my motherboard stay on. One workaround I found was to turn off the system fully unplug the PSU remove all charge from the computer and then go do something for a few mins and when I come back and plug everything back in it boots up perfectly normal. One odd thing I found is that when it does boot the system is flawless everything works perfectly fine.

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CPU-AMD ryzen 7 1700 (no OC)

GPU-Nvidia RTX 2060

Motherboard-B450 Aorus Pro Wifi mini itx from gigabyte

Ram-2x8 Corsair Vengence

PSU-Corsair VS550

I have 2 storage devices a Kingston 480gb SSD and a Seagate 7.2k rpm 2tb hard drive

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 03-28-2020, 11:25 AM
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If it helps I had a similar problem a couple years ago. For clarification...

1. Turn PC on, fans spin, lights come on, doesn't post.
2. Reboot a few times, ends up posting, works fine.

Later on it developed symptom #3.

3. #2 doesn't work, unplug PSU, hold power switch for about 30s or wait 5-10 mins, replug it up and retry, boots fine.

It did this intermittently for about 6 months. Eventually it shut off on it's own. Upon trying to reboot fans wouldn't spin up, lights wouldn't turn on and the system wouldn't even attempt to power on. #3 above provided zero results. In the end swapping in another PSU fixed the problem. This lead me to believe the 6 month period was due to some component in the PSU starting to fail. Eventually it went from it's last leg to dead.

Basically, I'd rule out the PSU. I won't say it definitely is your problem because these type of issues can be tricky to troubleshoot. I do find the PSU is often a good option to rule out though. They're relatively cheap compared to a lot of components, at least to swap out, and they don't tend to have a lot in the way of compatibility concerns. Not like various other components anyway (chips, boards, ram, etc.).

The other option would be to ensure it's not the board. Faulty boards can lead to some very interesting behavior.

Before swapping out components removing all non-essential components and trying to boot/check behavior is a good starting point. You should be able to rule out most stuff by taking this step. Unfortunately, this isn't often helpful when a system is behaving normally sometimes but not others. Ruling out other obvious suspects like over-heating, doing a visual inspection of components and things of this nature goes without saying.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iridium31 View Post
If it helps I had a similar problem a couple years ago. For clarification...

1. Turn PC on, fans spin, lights come on, doesn't post.
2. Reboot a few times, ends up posting, works fine.

Later on it developed symptom #3.

3. #2 doesn't work, unplug PSU, hold power switch for about 30s or wait 5-10 mins, replug it up and retry, boots fine.

It did this intermittently for about 6 months. Eventually it shut off on it's own. Upon trying to reboot fans wouldn't spin up, lights wouldn't turn on and the system wouldn't even attempt to power on. #3 above provided zero results. In the end swapping in another PSU fixed the problem. This lead me to believe the 6 month period was due to some component in the PSU starting to fail. Eventually it went from it's last leg to dead.

Basically, I'd rule out the PSU. I won't say it definitely is your problem because these type of issues can be tricky to troubleshoot. I do find the PSU is often a good option to rule out though. They're relatively cheap compared to a lot of components, at least to swap out, and they don't tend to have a lot in the way of compatibility concerns. Not like various other components anyway (chips, boards, ram, etc.).

The other option would be to ensure it's not the board. Faulty boards can lead to some very interesting behavior.

Before swapping out components removing all non-essential components and trying to boot/check behavior is a good starting point. You should be able to rule out most stuff by taking this step. Unfortunately, this isn't often helpful when a system is behaving normally sometimes but not others. Ruling out other obvious suspects like over-heating, doing a visual inspection of components and things of this nature goes without saying.
Yeah, that sounds exactly like the problem I have been having. I did do the minimalistic approach when testing and the same issue I also reseated all the cables so I think it may be similar to the issue to yours. The only problem is that I don't have a spare PSU and with the whole coronavirus it may be difficult to get a new one so I will probably order a better one asap and just use the workaround until the new one arrives. I have heard bad things about my PSU and running occt it has really bad coil whine and there is a weird clicking bumping sound so I was probably gonna buy a new one anyway. Any recommendations for a good quality PSU? Thanks for the response
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Sory to tell you but your PSU pretty much sucks and its not very good to say the least
The Seasonic Focus GX or Prime Ultra are both good options and a 550 watt is more than enough power for the parts you have you need much better quality not more wattage

Edit: this is what you have right?
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What's the RAM speed you are using? Are you running your RAM at its rated speed? Did you enable XMP in the BIOS menus?

What happens if you reset everything about RAM settings in the BIOS to default. The system's default RAM speed will be something slow like 2400MHz. Are things booting fine if you run the RAM at that slow speed?

If things run fine at the slow default memory speed, and sometimes boot and run fine at a fast speed, then you will be able to fix your problem using the "ProcODT" and "RTT" and "CAD" resistance settings in the BIOS menus. There's a thread somewhere about Ryzen memory overclocking somewhere that should help.
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I reset the bios multiple times and tested for bad memory both sticks are functioning ok and the bios are currently at its stock state. The fact that my pc runs fine and I'm even able to play VR is tempting me that this is a psu or motherboard issue. It seems like even at the default settings I still have this issue but I've run my ram at default for almost a year now with no issues. But I will probably tinker a little bit with my ram just to be positive it isn't it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Sory to tell you but your PSU pretty much sucks and its not very good to say the least
The Seasonic Focus GX or Prime Ultra are both good options and a 550 watt is more than enough power for the parts you have you need much better quality not more wattage

Edit: this is what you have right?
https://www.overclock.net/forum/31-p...fenix-bpa.html
Oh my god that PSU isn't even really meant for American power. Yep, that's the PSU I have and I have beat this thing to death I never turn off my computer until I go to bed and I turn it back on when I wake up. I've heard this PSU is crap from the moment I got it and it failing after around 3/4 of a year doesn't surprise me now thanks for your recommendations I will definitely be spending more than I did on this one and making sure I buy quality. This build was on a tight budget for the parts I wanted so I cheaped on the PSU. Thanks for the input I will check out those power supplies you recommended.
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If you are on a budget the Corsair CX550M is a decent option its not great but its far better than the VS
But if you can buy a Focus GX or Prime Ultra you should buy one of those

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
If you are on a budget the Corsair CX550M is a decent option its not great but its far better than the VS
But if you can buy a Focus GX or Prime Ultra you should buy one of those
I will most likely buy the Focus GX it seems like the best option and money is not a huge issue for me right now as there are no steam sales upcoming. Anyway, thanks for the help once I pop in the new PSU I will tell you if it fixed the problem which I am 99% sure it will.
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Just a note there is both a V1 and a V2 of the VS series the thread i linked was to the V1
The V2 is slightly less crap but its still not very good

You can tell the difference by the 80 plus rating the V1 is just 80 plus and the V2 is 80 plus bronze rated

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