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Buget Alrounder feedback needed

Hi,
i need some feedback on this buget build. It should stay around the 600€ mark.
It has been 10 years since i last build a rig. I hope i can still do it.

It should handle 1080p gaiming and light workloads.

Here are the components

Ryzen 5 1600 AF

AsRock b450M Pro4

16GB G.Skill Aegis DDR4-3000 CL16-18-18 Dual Kit

Radeon 580 Power Color Red Dragon V2 8Gb

550W Corsair TX-M 80+Gold

500Gb M.2 WD Blue 2280 SSD

AeroCool Cylon

Stock Cooler



Some questions I have:

1. Asrock B450 Pro4 M or MSI Tomahawk? Are the 30 € more worth it?

2. How is my choice of RAM with the 1600AF, is DDR4 3200 worth it?

3. 580 or gtx 1660, or should i spend a bit more and get a 5700?

Thanks
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-07-2020, 08:08 AM
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I think the Ripjaw V 3200 cl 16 are a better option for 79, Check with @Veii
I guess the rest is fine check if you can find an RX5500 8gb for 200 euros. or if you want to stretch to the 5700 which is a nice upgrade.
5700>Tomahawk, budget wise.

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I forgot to ask: Where can I find some other PSU recommendations?
A friend of mine recommended 600W or 650W.

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Quote: Originally Posted by xARVOx View Post
I forgot to ask: Where can I find some other PSU recommendations?
A friend of mine recommended 600W or 650W.
nah, no need its a good PSU for a good price + 550w is more than enough.

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550 watt is more than enough

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Very unsure about the powersuply, but hopefully it's not too bad
the 580 draws around 180W constant or 220W OCd
The 2600 around let's say 120-125W
500W would be already enough, 550W gold for hitting efficiency near the 400W region
or 500W gold, to hit efficiency near the 350-370 region
Speaking of which, you might even consider going SFX at that point - let's see

About the rams, this budget is indeed tight
Maybe here either the G.Skill Sniper Camo kit would do you well or the 1st gen Ballistix Sport LT AES kits

I'm on a bit conflicting topic with that gpu , especially the model
A 5600 even non XT should serve you better, also needs some doublechecking
Maybe an EVGA 2060 KO would be in the budget

Need to check german prices, will update
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2. How is my choice of RAM with the 1600AF, is DDR4 3200 worth it?
3. 580 or gtx 1660, or should i spend a bit more and get a 5700?
Thanks
I move around the 660-670 mark so far, after doublechecking and calculating shipping back and forth
Swapped everything except the CPU

580 vs 1660 , non of both
Either you have the money to add a tiny bit for a 5600 XT or you stay within a 590
A 580 is too slow with germany prices - also does coil whine on 9/10 models
a 5500XT is a good option for budget low power builds [draws 100W less], but the PSUs are expensive ~ no option
1650 is too slow, 1660 Super is near the price range of a 5600 XT where it's outperformed
2060 KO is overpriced in germany, retails for 300€ - about 100$ too much
~ the best is either to stay under near the 190 mark and grab a 590 or spend 280~ for a 5600XT

The same goes for the board and for ram
10€ difference make a big difference
Going under 79€ for ram leads to just bad decisions, you have couple of options to pick from

What's your actual max budget you are able to spend ?
This includes shipping cost
Vague calculations lead to badly balanced setups

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The Corsair TX is not bad at all
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12070...old-psu-review

However you can find the Seasonic Focus for less on Newegg so better double check and see if you can find a Focus cheaper
If not just keep the TX

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Absolute MAX Buget including a monitor, keyboard, mouse, Wireless Card, DVD burner is 1000€ max.
However the cheaper the better.

GPU Prices in Germany are always weird. for 300€ i would buy a 5700 form MSI. The 20€ delta for the 5600XT is too smal to be really effective.
Bang for Buch a 590 may be better.

The GPU situation as a whole is confusing for someone who just gets into it again. *** happened.
My gut tells me to just spend a bit more to get a newer gen card.

MSI 5700 300€
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...-_1346183.html

I can find some 590 for 190€ excluding shipping.

I have switched to the Seasonic 550W Focus Plus Gold PSU. However i am very sceptical when it comes to PSUs. My first build blew up when i installed the 7970.

Originally my target was around 600€ for the PC alone. However 700€ is also ok.

On the RAM side im clueless, I never dealt with Ryzen befor, its pretty picky with Ram, so im very open for your recommendations.

Thanks in advance

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Oh i forgot. Probably no overclocking on this build. Its for a friend.
Stability is key. Otherwhise im going to have to be 24/7 tech support.

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Oh i forgot. Probably no overclocking on this build. Its for a friend.
Stability is key. Otherwhise im going to have to be 24/7 tech support.
This changes it
I mean, stability works after you tested it once
only bad overclocks exist

Would you set up for your friend the memory or wouldn't you want to bother ?
Because staying with under 3600 on ryzen 2nd gen is noticable - your limit is 3733 here
Idk about the IMC on these things if 14 or 12nm, but 14nm would be 3467MT/s your limit

Can you give a bit more information on the monitor, then i can factor everything in
Is he going for productivity, workstation usecase, gaming rig
What resolution would be preferred, color accurate work ?
https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1522945
this was the middle point, but i'm not entirely happy
Ends up to 676€ incl shipping - just unbalanced if we factor 700 for the whole set
With 1000 i can work with, to include wireless part

The end question remains only about the mice, which likely goes near 80-100 bucks
Mousepad ?
Would skip the 5700 MSI version
They saved on thermal pads and used far to small ones, else the cooler is fine
Keyboard i was thinking about the GMMK lineup barebones with own switches
(would need here also a bit of input what he has used in the past
Barebones with their PBT caps and 3rd party switches ~ as they are modular
Soo your friend doesn't have to trow away the keyboard if one key or one LED dies

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