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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-24-2019, 03:07 AM - Thread Starter
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Linux newb needs help

Hi all. I'm trying to switch over to Linux as my daily os, but I'm having some kind of issue where my computer just freezes on the motherboard splash screen. I tried dual booting on my gaming rig about a year ago, and I got the same issue. So I gave up for awhile. Eventually I put together a dedicated linux rig, hoping that would solve the problem. For some reason, I'm still getting the exact same issue, on this other computer. Just like when I tried dual booting on the gaming rig, this new rig will boot into my distro a few times. You may get 5 reboots out of it. But then eventually it just freezes on the motherboard splash screen, and will never boot the distro again.

You've got to reinstall something in order to get it booting again. And because of that, it seems to me like this is either a bios or a bootloader issue. Has anyone else ever had this problem? Where you'd install linux, only to have the computer start freezing on the motherboard splash screen? Its totally locked up, you can't press Delete or F8 or anything, you just have to hold down the power button and turn it off.

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Disable Secure Boot and Fast Boot in the bios. And while you're at it disable the splash screen so you can see any boot errors.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
what distro?
I've tried Zorin, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and KDE Neon. Had the same issue with all. The rig I'm trying to use is as follows:

Biostar T-series motherboard from 2006
Intel Core2duo 6600 processor
Samsung evo SSD 250Gb
Creative Xfi Sound card
Nvidia GT 620 video card
4Gb of DDR2 Kingston brand
Corsair 400 watt power supply

Its just something I threw together (cheaply) so I could mess around with, and learn linux.

Quote: Originally Posted by Diffident View Post
Disable Secure Boot and Fast Boot in the bios. And while you're at it disable the splash screen so you can see any boot errors.
Will I still be able to spam the Delete key and enter the bios, if I disable the splash screen? Sounds like a dumb question but I had to ask.

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Quote: Originally Posted by PhotonFanatic View Post
I've tried Zorin, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and KDE Neon. Had the same issue with all. The rig I'm trying to use is as follows:

Biostar T-series motherboard from 2006
Intel Core2duo 6600 processor
Samsung evo SSD 250Gb
Creative Xfi Sound card
Nvidia GT 620 video card
4Gb of DDR2 Kingston brand
Corsair 400 watt power supply

Its just something I threw together (cheaply) so I could mess around with, and learn linux.



Will I still be able to spam the Delete key and enter the bios, if I disable the splash screen? Sounds like a dumb question but I had to ask.

Yes, but looking at how old your hardware is, it probably doesn't have Secure boot or fast boot.

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Also go into the BIOS and disable "halt on error," "wait for key press on error," etc.
If the motherboard CMOS battery hasn't been replaced in several years you may need a new battery (usually CR2032 lithium coin cell).



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Well I found out what the problem is. I have a USB switch, cause I don't want to have to unplug everything from my gaming rig, (main rig) and plug it into the linux rig every time I want to use the linux rig. So I'd just hit the switch, and everything would switch over. Nice and easy. Linux does NOT like it when you do that in the middle of the boot process lol. If you just wait until the OS is fully booted and you're looking at the desktop, it doesn't care. Everything works fine. But if you try and do that while its booting up, it will freeze on the motherboard splash screen. Yall were right about disabling the splash screen, I could see that it froze right when it got to checking the USB stuff.


I think the only reason I didn't catch it sooner, was that it wasn't doing it when I was booting windows. Windows I guess is more tolerant of that and it would just go ahead and accept it. So all I've got to do, is simply wait until linux is booted to hit the usb switch. Then it recognizes that it just had several new USB devices plugged in, and all is well. Thanks to all for the help!

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It would do you well to consider that convenience comes at a cost. The "tolerance" that Windfows affords is exactly what created the old BSOD and why you won't find Win10 on any super computer or for that matter any truly mission critical device. Windows employs a microkernel which does not require self-checks so that any dummy can use it. Linux give us way more power, but just like Spidey's Uncle said, you know what that implies. To enjoy such power your PC must insure that everything you need is in place and since it can't see through an open switch it halts. However you, the owner-operator can see and operate the switch so it is your responsibility to do so if you want access to serious power. The only other possible choice is to continue to be conveniently weak and dumb and let Apple or Microsoft do it for you, but that comes at the aforementioned cost.

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Well I found out what the problem is. I have a USB switch, cause I don't want to have to unplug everything from my gaming rig, (main rig) and plug it into the linux rig every time I want to use the linux rig. So I'd just hit the switch, and everything would switch over. Nice and easy. Linux does NOT like it when you do that in the middle of the boot process lol. If you just wait until the OS is fully booted and you're looking at the desktop, it doesn't care. Everything works fine. But if you try and do that while its booting up, it will freeze on the motherboard splash screen. Yall were right about disabling the splash screen, I could see that it froze right when it got to checking the USB stuff.


I think the only reason I didn't catch it sooner, was that it wasn't doing it when I was booting windows. Windows I guess is more tolerant of that and it would just go ahead and accept it. So all I've got to do, is simply wait until linux is booted to hit the usb switch. Then it recognizes that it just had several new USB devices plugged in, and all is well. Thanks to all for the help!
Is this switch for your keyboard and mouse. If it is. You may want to look into an application called synergy. It will allow you to use your keyboard and mouse on both machines with out having to use a KVM

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Is this switch for your keyboard and mouse. If it is. You may want to look into an application called synergy. It will allow you to use your keyboard and mouse on both machines with out having to use a KVM

Barrier is a fork of the original Synergy, and works flawlessly for me across 4 Linux machines. https://github.com/debauchee/barrier


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