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post #9131 of 9164 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 03:22 PM
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post #9132 of 9164 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 04:47 PM
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Maybe, but i heard more people are having massive problems with Nvidia drivers lately.

One guy over at GEforce forums get black screens sometimes for no apparent reason. I am on 419.67 and its running fine so far i think.

The weird thing is that i get 1 K lower CPU score by only installing newer GPU..
I get random black screens every so often but after all this time (more than a year and several updates) and a few different GPUs and CPUs I am in the mindset it is an issue with the MB more than anything else. My latest odd development is that I now tend to get these black screens on the weekends more than any other day of the week. I have noticed one thing in particular when I get these black screens and have to do a hard reboot, every time there is an update either from windows or some other program. I tried researching it to find if there is a certain DLL or some other thing that happens within the OS whenever certain programs get an update but I have been unable to find anything on it.
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I'm surprised that I'm not seeing more bug reports here, I'm on 1703 and the last time I attempted to update it was to 1809 for Dark File Explorer. Within a matter of hours I discovered a rather severe bug where I could not access the contextual menus of task-bar items (i.e. Chrome, File Explorer, Media Players etc.) by right clicking on them. Right clicking on them would produce a contextual drop down menu but the moment I would attempt to place the cursor over them they would disappear, rendering them inaccessible. Restarting the PC didn't resolve the problem and running sfc /scannow returned no integrity violations. Basically Windows 10 was telling me everything was ok when in fact it wasn't. This was only one bug that I found immediately, I imagine there were others, so I reverted to 1703 via system image and have been here ever since, hoping that that issue would be resolved with the next update (1903).

Going here, man this update, I'm not touching it with a ten-foot-pole.

But here there are zero complaints about this?

I'm talking about updating, not reinstalling the OS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...te_megathread/

And a lot more in the main page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/
I am on 1903 and all I can tell you is that everything seems to be running smoothly so far. But I have never experienced 99% of the issues people have reported through any update with Windows 10.

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I get random black screens every so often but after all this time (more than a year and several updates) and a few different GPUs and CPUs I am in the mindset it is an issue with the MB more than anything else. My latest odd development is that I now tend to get these black screens on the weekends more than any other day of the week. I have noticed one thing in particular when I get these black screens and have to do a hard reboot, every time there is an update either from windows or some other program. I tried researching it to find if there is a certain DLL or some other thing that happens within the OS whenever certain programs get an update but I have been unable to find anything on it.


I am on 1903 and all I can tell you is that everything seems to be running smoothly so far. But I have never experienced 99% of the issues people have reported through any update with Windows 10.


yeah, same here with the black screens, can't find the issue just yet, but I know is conflicting the drivers every time an update comes around...


just out of curiosity what Hard drives you have in your computer? what ssd or whatever it is

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I've updated two machines to 1903. Start bar and task bar can freeze on both. Neither did it before.
Interesting, thanks for the info, have you submitted a bug to Microsoft via their Feedback Hub? I'm wondering if they are going to address all of these bugs with an update and when we can expect that to happen.

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I get random black screens every so often but after all this time (more than a year and several updates) and a few different GPUs and CPUs I am in the mindset it is an issue with the MB more than anything else. My latest odd development is that I now tend to get these black screens on the weekends more than any other day of the week. I have noticed one thing in particular when I get these black screens and have to do a hard reboot, every time there is an update either from windows or some other program. I tried researching it to find if there is a certain DLL or some other thing that happens within the OS whenever certain programs get an update but I have been unable to find anything on it.


I am on 1903 and all I can tell you is that everything seems to be running smoothly so far. But I have never experienced 99% of the issues people have reported through any update with Windows 10.
It's probably that motherboard, I ran a RIVBE + i7 4930k (4.5 GHz, 1.342v) from 2014 to 2017 with Win 7 at which point I upgrade to 8700k (Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7, 5.0 GHz, 0 AVX, 1.342v) and on Win 10, I can't believe how stable my rig is, like I get a BSOD or black screen maybe once every 4-5 months (I had a display driver related black screen a few weeks ago, and maybe 6 months ago, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had a BSOD, they happen like once a year now). With the RIVBE + 4930k, it was every other week, and another thing I hated was that a lot of my fan headers went out on that board. I can't believe that my current motherboard is half the price of RIVBE, looks way better and has zero issues. The issues were the reason I went with a different brand with Gigabyte this time around. If youre seeing any kind of CPU bottleneck in games you should upgrade, I'm not exaggerating 8700k @ 5.0 GHz is around 40-50% faster than 4930k @ 4.5 GHz in games (FPS went from ~40 to ~60 in large fights in Planetside 2, not that I'm playing that anymore but I was curious to see the difference, CEMU emulation saw a big boost before Zelda: Breath of the Wild became more optimized, and games in 3D Vision run a lot smoother because 3D Vision causes the game to only use 3 cores for some reason, and having 3200 MHz DDR4 memory is also a lot faster than 2133 MHz memory. I'm not trying to brag or anything, just pointing out my experience with that motherboard and 4930k and how relieved I have been to upgrade late 2017.

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yeah, same here with the black screens, can't find the issue just yet, but I know is conflicting the drivers every time an update comes around...


just out of curiosity what Hard drives you have in your computer? what ssd or whatever it is
Check that users signature below their post.

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Interesting, thanks for the info, have you submitted a bug to Microsoft via their Feedback Hub? I'm wondering if they are going to address all of these bugs with an update and when we can expect that to happen.



It's probably that motherboard, I ran a RIVBE + i7 4930k (4.5 GHz, 1.342v) from 2014 to 2017 with Win 7 at which point I upgrade to 8700k (Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7, 5.0 GHz, 0 AVX, 1.342v) and on Win 10, I can't believe how stable my rig is, like I get a BSOD or black screen maybe once every 4-5 months (I had a display driver related black screen a few weeks ago, and maybe 6 months ago, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had a BSOD, they happen like once a year now). With the RIVBE + 4930k, it was every other week, and another thing I hated was that a lot of my fan headers went out on that board. I can't believe that my current motherboard is half the price of RIVBE, looks way better and has zero issues. The issues were the reason I went with a different brand with Gigabyte this time around. If youre seeing any kind of CPU bottleneck in games you should upgrade, I'm not exaggerating 8700k @ 5.0 GHz is around 40-50% faster than 4930k @ 4.5 GHz in games (FPS went from ~40 to ~60 in large fights in Planetside 2, not that I'm playing that anymore but I was curious to see the difference, CEMU emulation saw a big boost before Zelda: Breath of the Wild became more optimized, and games in 3D Vision run a lot smoother because 3D Vision causes the game to only use 3 cores for some reason, and having 3200 MHz DDR4 memory is also a lot faster than 2133 MHz memory. I'm not trying to brag or anything, just pointing out my experience with that motherboard and 4930k and how relieved I have been to upgrade late 2017.



Check that users signature below their post.


sometimes the user signature don't show, mine is not showing right?

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sometimes the user signature don't show, mine is not showing right?
Yeah I can't see yours, can you see mine?

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Yeah I can't see yours, can you see mine?
i can see the signature, the text you added, but not the tab with the system info

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yeah, same here with the black screens, can't find the issue just yet, but I know is conflicting the drivers every time an update comes around...


just out of curiosity what Hard drives you have in your computer? what ssd or whatever it is
My C drive is on an NVME PCIE drive using a modded bios (note the black screens were happening way before I switched to NVME). I also have three other SSDs and a 4tb HDD for the ton of games I have....lol.
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It's probably that motherboard, I ran a RIVBE + i7 4930k (4.5 GHz, 1.342v) from 2014 to 2017 with Win 7 at which point I upgrade to 8700k (Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7, 5.0 GHz, 0 AVX, 1.342v) and on Win 10, I can't believe how stable my rig is, like I get a BSOD or black screen maybe once every 4-5 months (I had a display driver related black screen a few weeks ago, and maybe 6 months ago, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had a BSOD, they happen like once a year now). With the RIVBE + 4930k, it was every other week, and another thing I hated was that a lot of my fan headers went out on that board. I can't believe that my current motherboard is half the price of RIVBE, looks way better and has zero issues. The issues were the reason I went with a different brand with Gigabyte this time around. If youre seeing any kind of CPU bottleneck in games you should upgrade, I'm not exaggerating 8700k @ 5.0 GHz is around 40-50% faster than 4930k @ 4.5 GHz in games (FPS went from ~40 to ~60 in large fights in Planetside 2, not that I'm playing that anymore but I was curious to see the difference, CEMU emulation saw a big boost before Zelda: Breath of the Wild became more optimized, and games in 3D Vision run a lot smoother because 3D Vision causes the game to only use 3 cores for some reason, and having 3200 MHz DDR4 memory is also a lot faster than 2133 MHz memory. I'm not trying to brag or anything, just pointing out my experience with that motherboard and 4930k and how relieved I have been to upgrade late 2017.

I don't get BSODs just black screens and I do want to upgrade really really bad, but I am financially unable to....

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My C drive is on an NVME PCIE drive using a modded bios (note the black screens were happening way before I switched to NVME). I also have three other SSDs and a 4tb HDD for the ton of games I have....lol.


I don't get BSODs just black screens and I do want to upgrade really really bad, but I am financially unable to....

I don't think is the motherboard, cuz I had the blacks screens ever since I bought my SSDs, cuz I literally have upgraded my whole system, Motherboard, cpu, ram, PSU, video card, monitor, everything but my SDDs

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Any solutions on when computer wakes up from sleep randomly?

I have 1903. I tried disabling the mouse in Device manager, but no luck. I figured I disable wake on LAN, but can't seem to find it. I tried right-clicking Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller, but Power Management is missing.

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