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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-24-2018, 12:12 AM - Thread Starter
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Exclamation ocasional Microstuttering in every game!? HDD Issue?

hello folks. recently i'm struggling to find what is the cause of the microstuttering that is happening in ALMOST every game that i play.
first, my system:

- fx8370e Overclocked to 4350MHz (203x21.5) (1.36v in bios with low llc)
- gtx970 galax oc
- coolermaster gx650 PSU
- 970a udp3 v2 MOBO
- 16gb ram 1600 corsair vengeance. (2x8) (running ant 812MHz because of bclk overclock)
- 5x 120mm fans
- corsair h45 water cooler
- HDD seagate GREEN 5900rpm 1.5tb (possible cause?)
Win10 64bit

the problem is:

- I get considerably high Fps in the games that i play but ocasionaly i'm hit with microstuttering. in some games are more frequent than others (forza horizon 3 and pubg are the ones that i have the most. both OPEN WORLDs)

what i have already tried to do to fix:

- reset BIOS
- reconnected and swapped all cables and sata ports
- reset/remove overclock from cpu and gpu
- underclocked and overclocked GPU.
- tried RAM in single and dual channel, both sticks alone, higher timmings, xmp on and off. No good
- reinstall games
- reconnected the cables and gpu. no good
- check no to "fullscreen optimizations"
- energy options and set cpu to always 100%
- chkdsk
- memtest
- HPET on and off
- uninstalling msi afterburner and VFX audio enhancer.
- fiddling with windows crap (superfetch, telemetry etc)
- disabling cache shader
- FRESH WINDOWS install.

NOTHING ABOVE WORKED.
so... i've tried some tests and monitoring them i was able to extract some clues:
0- it 'usually' happens when loading TEXTURES
1- in games like assetto corsa and Project cars, both running with higher settings, the cpu stays running full, the gpu usage stays 99% locked and I have no stutter AT ALL, while disk usage stays ~0% basically always.
2- in games like Forza and PUBG, every stutter occurs in higher HDD usage times or the stutter itself is followed by a peak in usage (or even a small little peak)
3- rocket league showed me that, every time the stutter occurs, there is a drop in GPU usage in junction of a HDD Peak.
4- disabling the paging file reduced the PUBG stuttering big time!

should this be caused by the Hard drive then ?? (it already have ~6, 7 years too)
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In a nutshell yes.

If the stutter is being caused every time the HDD comes into to play then it can only point to be the cause, in fairness if its done you 6/7 years then it sounds like swapping it out will only be a good thing and perhaps use it as a back up drive or a spare.

Thankfully hard-drives are nice and cheap so it wont burst the bank getting a new one.

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Do you not have your OS on a SSD....
They are cheap get one...
A OS should not be installed on a HDD.


Second Green drives are for media storage, not video games. You should be using a higher performance HDD for video games.


Third, A Proper OC setup is key. Those AMD chips like a Fast HyperTransport Bus, so pushing that up is always a good thing. But remember to keep the system stable. Also DDR3 1600mhz is on the low end of things, especially if it isn't low latency. RAM doesn't always take well to overclocking, so that is something I would also watch.

Your CPU should also have a unlocked multiplier? So overclocking with that is never a bad idea.

A unstable system can cause random acts of microstuttering. But for the looks of it you have both windows and games on the same slow HDD. That is a big problem. Even back before SSDs, A HDD for the OS and a HDD for games was the way to go. And even then I would partition off the first half of my HDD for the OS to keep it on the quick side of the HDD. I have gotten Stutter and pop-ins in games from old slower HDD's in the past if I both the OS and games on the same slow drive.

Disabling Cache and page files is not the way to go. You should have a SSD, and the page file should be on it as well.
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thanks to all answers!
about the SSD, no, i don't have one. i'm a brazilian college student (no money in a freakin' expensive country), so i'm trying to get some money to buy a new 7200rpm Hdd, that is considerably cheaper around here.
what do you guys think of the Seagate SATA 3,5´ BarraCuda 1TB 7200RPM? (64MB Cache SATA 6Gb/s)

About overclock. its already done, like i've said, in both GPU and CPU. both were stress tested and stable around prime95, IBT AVX, and other small tests and i've tried all in defaut AND UNDERCLOCKED settings. same results.

RAM was "memtested" and tested in all possible ways - default timmings, XMP, dual and single channel and both sticks alone. same results.~

the other factor (some heavy games run well) make me doubt that it is related to other hardware than HDD and/or OS
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Save for a few more weeks and grab an SSD. PUBG is basically unplayable on my system when it's installed on my 7200RPM Toshiba X300 drive so I keep it on my SSD. If I do keep it on my HDD, I get marshmallow textures for the first couple minutes of the game and microstutters throughout the whole game.

Google it, it's a fairly common issue for PUBG.

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hey people. sorry for the revival, but I got some news.
I have bought and tested an Galax 120 SSD and fresh formatted the system. but... the PROBLEM STILL Exists!!!
I have tested another GPU, Another CPU, another RAM Sticks... no results...

So i am planning to test another motherboard that my brother have, but it just have a 4 pin connector to the cpu... do you think it can hold some 4.3, 4.5 overclock in my fx8370E?

if it works, i'll probably prefer sticking to it... the model is asus m5a88 m
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Quote: Originally Posted by jonomaia View Post
hey people. sorry for the revival, but I got some news.
I have bought and tested an Galax 120 SSD and fresh formatted the system. but... the PROBLEM STILL Exists!!!
I have tested another GPU, Another CPU, another RAM Sticks... no results...

So i am planning to test another motherboard that my brother have, but it just have a 4 pin connector to the cpu... do you think it can hold some 4.3, 4.5 overclock in my fx8370E?

if it works, i'll probably prefer sticking to it... the model is asus m5a88 m
Maybe look into something like PrimoCache. There's a 60 day trial though it's $30 for a life time license after the 60 days is up.

I'd look into setting up a small portion of your ssd to supplement your hdd and give 2gb of system ram to the ssd or hdd. You'll have to research the details.

Haven't used the program myself but I've seen it mentioned and a lot of people seem to have good results.

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