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post #21 of 82 (permalink) Old 08-02-2018, 01:35 AM
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If they keep two options, desktop one time pay windows like today, and the DaaS, it should be fine. People will not rush to pay monthly fee for DaaS unless they actually need it.
The OS is not an optional application like office or adobe or netflix etc, that they have alternatives. Especially with windows being the majority OS for anything not apple related, and I don't think they will dare to go that route.

But, if microsoft ever make windows a monthly fee OS, it can see it dying. And I have a feeling it will take the hardware market with it right into the gutter.
I don't think people will be willing to go buy a laptop or a computer from the shop only to realise they have to pay 5$ to use their PC.


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post #22 of 82 (permalink) Old 08-02-2018, 01:40 AM
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Do certain games not work on windows 7 ?
One of the problems will start be hardware related and less game related.

Since kaby lake and onward, microsoft no longer support them on windows 7. Meaning you are going to start having driver problems, unsupported issues etc.
There are some ways around it, but at some point they will start making things harder and harder, so you will either have to move to windows 10, or move to linux. Or keep using older hardware.


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But more importantly, will it DaaS Boot?

I was thinking the same thing
Sadly this reference is going to go way over so many heads in OCN.

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They can't afford to push this on everyone. They have more competition now. The moment the blood is in the water, the sharks will circle.
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Microsoft has never tried to irritate customers like this service movement before. The more they push the more they get people like the Windows 7 users not transitioning(And the numbers are not really moving past a certain point). All the competition needs is one good alternative. Apple has never really begun to exist outside of its own hardware and Linux Desktops are not polished. Which leaves Google if you believe it or not. Its been working on its own custom OS outside of Android/ChromeOS. A stumbling Microsoft could be just what it takes to push into the desktop space like they did in the education space(ChromeOS is killing it there).
I think they will impose this. This is all the plan, that started with forced updates ...
Were people so infuriated at the time ? Nope.

The secret is to turn the knob progressively: forced updates, one update will tell you you MUST put your visa card number, for reasons, and all the fun will begin.

90% of users will comply. Some will be outraged, but who cares ? As for competition, like was said, Apple is far from even trying to be a competitor, even less now with their crazy pricing of obsolete gear. Linux, no way, either.

The only competition is Android tablets as I see it: plug a bluetooth KB + an USB mouse and you're golden. You even have MS Office on Android !

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Yet another reason I am so glad I have kept my beautiful trustworthy windows 7. Never going to upgrade unless they can produce a windows 7 like version. Hell I would go back to windows xp before I touched windows 10.
Beautiful? Not sure about that but ok.

Anyway windows 10 is fine, just need to deal with a few bs after that it's aight.
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Microsoft is moving to a service based model instead of a product-for-sale model. Even if they haven't officially announced the entire ecosystem as so, there is an undeniable shift in that direction. I don't necessarily have a problem with it. Just questions and concerns. Like...what if I cannot afford the monthly fee? Does that mean I am locked out of my desktop? Reduced functionality? What about the gaming titles purchased through the store? Can I still play those?

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They cant enforce it. People put up with a lot of crap, but being forced to hand over hard earned will be a major stopping point.

I can only see this as an also option much the same as 365 office. People can buy office outright (as I did) as well as buying Windows outright (which again I did). I can understand people buying office 365 sort of. But if they plan a pay per view option of Windows 10, then no one will upgrade from the current version. And because the current version is used the most, then it will get supported. This happened with Windows Vista. Vista was so bad no one wanted it. People stuck to Windows XP like glue, and many simply did not move on until windows 7 came out. So give people a good enough reason, and they won't shift.

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lol no. They might want this to happen, and some might put up with it, but they'll probably break the implementation so much that it'll never work.

I gave up on Windows update years ago. I don't think I've ran it in 6 years or more. I couldn't update it even if I wanted to, it sits there for hours to go and decide what updates to get, then pisses about for another hour downloading and installing about a floppy disk worth of patches, then a few reboots and the whole thing needs repeating several more times because it can't do them all in one go. Never mind what's actually in the updates...

With windows 10, MS have forgotten what people actually want from an operating system. Something that works, shuts up, does what its told and puts useful things within easy reach, all without eating all your system resources. All of those qualities are what made Windows 7 a success and they've gone out of the window since.

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If I could post images, I promise you this thread would be plastered with HA-HA guys.

Good idea fairy strikes again, and manages to snag a working-lunch with the Vice President of Implementing Potentially Disastrous Ideas. Sadly, I doubt they will be stupid enough to herd EVERYBODY into this, although dangit if that wouldn't be entertaining. With any luck, they will still push hard enough to send a bunch of people looking for a different computing environment right about the point where hopefully Sony announces that the PS5 will be using Vulkan -because hopefully it's using Vulkan- that the perfect storm happens and Mac and Linux start snagging M$'s marketshare. Everyone know Mac, but the price is right for Linux so I see more people trying out Ubuntu than buying an iMac.

I calculated the odds of this succeeding versus the odds I was doing something incredibly stupid... and I went ahead anyway.

If it's not coming out for the PC, it's dead to me.

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Quote: Originally Posted by inedenimadam View Post
Microsoft is moving to a service based model instead of a product-for-sale model. Even if they haven't officially announced the entire ecosystem as so, there is an undeniable shift in that direction.
That, pretty much, is clear

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I don't necessarily have a problem with it. Just questions and concerns. Like...what if I cannot afford the monthly fee? Does that mean I am locked out of my desktop? Reduced functionality? What about the gaming titles purchased through the store? Can I still play those?
You surely know the answers. Here they are:
- unpaid sub ? locked out to a screen where all you can do is pay, before accessing your, sorry, MS's desktop
- whatever you can't run before paying and that you've paid for already (games, pro softwares, etc ...) ? Sorry pal, you remember the EULA you've agreed upon when last update fell ? It was specifically mentioned you'd loose access to those in case of lack of payement to MS.

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