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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-07-2019, 05:14 AM - Thread Starter
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should i upgrade m or no?

ok so first off no hate here i would like some real input and opinions to help me decide what to do

so for the past few years i have been using windows 7 pro 64bit on my X58 platform gaming ring. the main reason i use windows 7 is 3 reasons

#1 i play a lot of games released between 2004=-2017
#2 im use to its user interface and i like the look and feel of it
#3 i read a lot of stuff on google as well as in many computing web forums where people talked about all of the tracking **** that microsoft added to windows 10

so im on the fence as to weather i wanna keep windows 7 for gaming and web browsing or give it up ion favor of windows 10?

my main fear is the tracking **** and all the other rumors and crap i read about

so can you guys kinds share your thoughts and experiences with windows 10 and help me decide if i should switch or not

also please dont just tell me to switch give me detailed reasons and facts please

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heres my main thing the reason im on the fence is because i read that shadow of the tomb raider gives better performance aka better FPS under direct x 12 thats one reason i might wanna switch

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Simply put, if you use Google (Chrome, searching, Youtube, Gmail, ect....) you're being tracked. Maybe it's not Microsoft doing it, but you're being tracked. If you have a smartphone, it's tracking you, if you have a Facebook with the app on your phone, it's listening to you. Adding Windows 10 to the mix really won't change anything. That being said, Win 10 itself is much better than Win 7 in my opinion. The multiple desktops, snap to 4 corners, Windows search, all of it just seems to make navigating easier. You also get DX12, which you will eventually need to play the latest games. If you don't want the added bloat though, you can use Win 10 bloat free edition that was community made. It cuts the app store, Cortana, and all of the tracking features. It saves a little CPU and RAM overhead as well. But Win 7 is also nearing end of life, so I would switch regardless.

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You can also get into the registry and break Windows 10s capability to record and report information. But you may have to repeat this step between updates, I suspect Microsoft will have restorative features in some of the patches that come out. After all, they make money when you buy the OS, then they use your OS to make money in advertisements. They won't want to lose out on the cash they generate at your privacy expense.

As an individual it is your responsibility to due diligence of privacy protection. Which you are partially doing by running W7 on your system. This is why I typically run nothing but Linux. As the poster above me has pointed out, if these items are your big concern, then many of the systems you likely use today need to be filed under do not use. So in reality, privacy really is an all or nothing type affair. These companies and the government do not need you to accept a EULA for them to track your activities. This can be done easily via interception and DPI which the government does all the time. (cough cough Utah).

In short, if you want privacy. The truth of the matter is staying on Windows 7 is doing you no favors other than in your head. If your still using Google, Facebook, Mobile Phones, Un-Encrypted Internet, GMail, Hotmail, etc, your being tracked and advertised to.

To fix this issue your going to have to make real and drastic changes to your electronic lifestyle. From using special search engines and VPNs, to abandoning the addiction so many have to social media and shopping sites. Abandoning the browsers and operating systems your used to and so forth. Even these steps will only curtail some of it, short of abandoning the electronic world, you cannot escape it fully.
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Hi,
7 is good for another year no real reason to move
I won't say upgrade to 10

Updates wise is the worst thing about 10
If you have 7 pro you can curb quite a bit but not all or 10 freaks out the more you remove/ disable.

7 home premium is not worth upgrading at all just buy 10 pro
Shutup 10 and it's default setup and windows update mini tool are good to have around although shutup 10 will do update stuff too I prefer wumt to do that.

I use 7 pro primarily
I just bought 10 pro as a couple little toys for each system to play with every once in a while/ benchmark mostly otherwise the 10 ssd's sit in a drawer where they can do no harm

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I moved to 10 because I felt like it. 7 is going by the wayside by 2020. Not going to add to all the other valid points that others have said but i'll give you another approach.

If you want Windows 10 without all the extra BS, research more. There are a plethora of applications, powershell and cmd scripts that will remove 99.99% off all the extra Windows 10 crap (telemetry, store, apps, etc). That's at the low level. If you want to take it even further, you could make your own Windows 10 installer that stuff already disabled. If your too lazy for that, there are plenty of custom made WIndows 10 OS's created by the community that has all that extra stuff removed. I'm current testing TeamOS Windows 10 Lite V6 in a VM on my UNRAID server and it seems pretty decent.

I go by the following:
Install Windows 10
Run all updates to the latest version
Using O&O Shut UP, remove all the extra stuff.
Run a few powershell scripts.

Whole process takes about a half hour and that's with the installation.
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I had to update to Win 10 because Adobe Lightroom cannot be updated under Win 8.1. My new Nikon Z 6 camera requires the update in order for the files to be read. I installed Win 10 Pro and it was a piece of cake. I did a full fresh install on a larger SSD and was pleased at how fast Win 10 installs. I don't have a lot of programs and reinstalling everything only took about three hours total (including the configurations that was needed). I have to say that I'm happy with how Win 10 runs. Boot times are much faster than with 8.1.

I'm still running Win 7 on my television PC as I need Windows Media Center for the cable card tuner. It doesn't matter to me when support ends since I only use it for TV and streaming Netflix, ESPN, and Amazon Prime.

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Hi,
Win-10 doesn't really shut down so it's misleading saying it starts up faster hibernation on steroids basically.

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