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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 03-07-2019, 02:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Insane input lag after windows update 1809

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i have update to version 1809. Not that it only reseted all services and setting like prefetch to default. Now i have insane input lag, that my games are unplayable. I reverted setting what i remembered, but i cannot remember all, or what i did to the system. Googled couple sites, found nothing usefull.
Is there fix for this, this **** is crazy, thanks.
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You'll probably have to clean install to fix it. This is exactly why I don't allow 10 to update on it's own...or update anything in any way.

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How do you even install updates ? I found only way windows catalog, but how do you keep track of new updates, there are many, you have over 1000wpm and read all changes manually or what ???
Btw that update made restore point, i will try to roll it back, it is not as ******** i thought. It is fixed, that makes so much diferrence in input lag like couple ms.
Is it even possible to not update to 1809 and have all critical updates ?
EDIT: i found solution.

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Use display driver uninstaller and re-install your video drivers.
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You can't update without using the latest build, no. But you can avoid this whole thing all together by disabling all the auto-update crap and manually backing up your data and programs so you can easily clean install every time you want to update. This can be done pretty easily and quickly if you're clever with file management and partitions. For instance I'll keep all my programs (that I can) on a separate partition so I can easily clean install C: without having to reinstall a bunch of stuff. Usually I'll use the same OS build or VGA driver until there is something worth updating over.

Sometimes you can update without issues but every now and then something like you've described can happen so I opt out of all the auto-update features and many other "features" in Windows 10.

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The latest Windows 10 patch introduced the sort of problems that you describe. Microsoft is recommending that people uninstall it until they fix it:


https://wccftech.com/windows-10-upda...nds-uninstall/


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The latest Windows 10 patch introduced the sort of problems that you describe. Microsoft is recommending that people uninstall it until they fix it:


https://wccftech.com/windows-10-upda...nds-uninstall/
Wow, I had no idea this was going on. +1

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Quote: Originally Posted by empl View Post
Hey,
i have update to version 1809. Not that it only reseted all services and setting like prefetch to default. Now i have insane input lag, that my games are unplayable. I reverted setting what i remembered, but i cannot remember all, or what i did to the system. Googled couple sites, found nothing usefull.
Is there fix for this, this **** is crazy, thanks.
Try disabling spectre protection with inspectre. Then restart and check. It isn't directly related, but is close and is easy. But uninstalling the update is too. I'm really just curious if the inspectre thing works since Windows has been progressively been making this security stuff mandatory with the later versions of W10.
Edit: nvm, you already fixed it. Good for you. I made some iso disks of previous versions of W10. Windows lets me use them so I do. I'm on 1709 on this pc, for example, but it is a pro license so that helps with deferring updates.

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Quote: Originally Posted by rluker5 View Post
Try disabling spectre protection with inspectre. Then restart and check. It isn't directly related, but is close and is easy. But uninstalling the update is too. I'm really just curious if the inspectre thing works since Windows has been progressively been making this security stuff mandatory with the later versions of W10.
Edit: nvm, you already fixed it. Good for you. I made some iso disks of previous versions of W10. Windows lets me use them so I do. I'm on 1709 on this pc, for example, but it is a pro license so that helps with deferring updates.
The latest build 1809, is stable, you just don't want that particular update for 1809.
When I do a clean install I use the latest build from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
Then as soon as it's done restarting and you finally make it to the desktop grab O&O:
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
...which allows you to permanently disable updates, telemetry, and a hundred other things that you probably wouldn't approve of.
You can undo them anytime and they'll default when you choose to update manually. It's just a stand alone regeditor with great preset options. I highly recommend it to anyone wanting to manage their own computer.


As long as you use O&O before your restart it/check for updates, you won't have to worry about it changing your drivers or anything and it will always be a stable build.
FYI before finding O&O I was making custom .ISO to make stripped out versions but O&O does everything I was trying to accomplish with that. Really cuts down on ram and network use too.

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SOLVED: On windows 10 forums they replied me there is tool: WUMT Wrapper Script to disable autoupdates, apparenltly windows bypasses group policy and registry setting and to download manually updates in update manager.
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