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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2019, 11:40 AM - Thread Starter
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Car ac radiator and extreme over clocking question

I have a 4690k cpu, I have it oced to 4.5 gz etc. 60c loads. Cooler Master Seidon 120V. With crazy sub zero cooling people have gotten 6 ghz+ out of a 4690k, if gathered the following

900L/h with 2m water height pump
Fan
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays...Black/48947421
used car ac radiator, like this guy
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...-radiator.html
Cheap waterblock
https://www.ebay.com/itm/41-162-Purp...UAAOSwiE1b9JYJ


What kind of overclock might I be able to achieve... 5.0+? Or is that considered to extreme for a fan water cooling system?


Iv been looking at all the creative overclocking on here for about the last 6 hours lol. I've only moderately overclocked my system in the past.

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2019, 11:48 AM
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With Raijintek Tisis on 5GHz + 1.43V I had 80C in Tera Online, that was without delid. Are you looking for an actual extreme overclocking or daily usage overclocking setup?

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It's had to say what you'll get on any CPU. Not only do we not know how the chips responds to voltage but we don't know how well the loop cools. That being said I got 5Ghz with mine delidded using a 212 Evo and about 1.45v, it's in my signature.

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too much voltage required to hit 5ghz in that cpu, its not worth it
Quote: Originally Posted by treetops422 View Post
I have a 4690k cpu, I have it oced to 4.5 gz etc. 60c loads. Cooler Master Seidon 120V. With crazy sub zero cooling people have gotten 6 ghz+ out of a 4690k, if gathered the following

900L/h with 2m water height pump
Fan
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays...Black/48947421
used car ac radiator, like this guy
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...-radiator.html
Cheap waterblock
https://www.ebay.com/itm/41-162-Purp...UAAOSwiE1b9JYJ


What kind of overclock might I be able to achieve... 5.0+? Or is that considered to extreme for a fan water cooling system?


Iv been looking at all the creative overclocking on here for about the last 6 hours lol. I've only moderately overclocked my system in the past.
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I have a friend running 6700k 4.8GHz with 1.45V for 3 years already without any degradation and he keeps it at ~70C

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I have a friend running 6700k 4.8GHz with 1.45V for 3 years already without any degradation and he keeps it at ~70C
he has 4690k
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I know, but it doesn't change much. I've also had 4690k as previously stated, for 1.5 year I ran 4.8GHz with 1.38V, later I stepped down to 4.7GHz and 1.34V as I wanted to run my RAM at 2400MHz too.

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post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2019, 12:24 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by pdasterly View Post
he has 4690k

4690K is 22nm and (slightly) more tolerant to voltage than 14nm. If OP is just going for a max OC run then 1.45v is fine.

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4690K is 22nm and (slightly) more tolerant to voltage than 14nm. If OP is just going for a max OC run then 1.45v is fine.
Exactly. If 14nm can take it there's no reason 22nm can't lol.
1.45v is more or less safe but I wouldn't use that much if I depended on the system. At this point the 4690k is pretty limited in a lot of ways and it's not like it was ever an expensive CPU so yeah hitting it with gobs of vcore can be fun.
Like I said, mine did 5ghz on a garbage air cooler and even on air it kept scaling reasonably well. Sadly my 4790k doesn't.

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How are you going to attach that block to a CPU lol?

Why try and reinvent the wheel? We used card radiators and Aquarium pumps in the early 2000s, We moved away from that junk for a reason. Take the advice of those before you, dont try to cheap out and by out of spec junk to save a few bucks and have to deal with issues and trial and error we did.

Companies have came about, WCers have found what works and what doesn't, we already did all the leg work with the junk, buy whats easy and available. If I were you, just buy an AIO, that 25 dollar pump, that you didnt link but I am sure you are going to buy. Ya it looks like a D5, it will also not pump the way it says it will, and it will be dead in 3 months. I got my brother in law in WCing and he bought 5 of those things in a year, and finally bought a D5.

Your not saving money doing this, blocks are not expensive because its for WCing, they are expensive because its expensive to make not junk. D5s are not "official" WC pumps, they are rebranded Laing D5s, and they cost more than what they do from WCing companies then non WC companies, or at least the same amount. They are not expensive because they are WC, they are expensive because they are Good Pumps.

Same with radiators, good quality alu rads, cost as much as copper WCing rads, and Alu is alot cheaper, its also not nearly as good as copper.

If you want to cut costs, and dont care about using Alu, get a fluid gaming kit, 140 dollars full custom loop. Your project will cost you the same if not more, as initial cost. And then cost you 10x more when everything keeps breaking.

Also it isnt going to cool anything to anywhere near 5ghz, that block has no channels, thats a box for water to run through lol. It isnt going to cool anything, aside from the fact it cant be mounted on a CPU.

Unless you meant to link this one, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cooling-Wat....c100005.m1851

Which even still. How you going to mount it? You realize they are oxidizing the cold plate? That thing is going to fry any CPU you put it on. that is a Wish.com special man.

IMO, its not worth the cost of a decent rig to gamble on Chinese junk. Which is what everything your trying to buy is. If you really think a 4 dollar ebay waterblock is going to cool anything, you need to stop now. Before you break your rig.

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