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post #41 of 49 (permalink) Old 08-19-2005, 12:59 PM
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Even though this belongs else where, do not move it mods. This should be a statement about typing online.

For some reason folks believe that being on the Internet somehow suspends the rules of grammar and punctuation.

For what it's worth, I posted this on the DC Forums to try to explain my thought process as to the reason we should always attempt to use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation and am reposting it here for your reading pleasure with a couple of slight edits.


First, most of the folks on here (not all) don't jump on the "use proper spelling and grammar" bandwagon when it is pretty obvious that the poster is not a native English speaker. That said, those of us that ARE native speakers, need to use proper spelling and grammar. Not just on this forum, but in most, if not all, written communication. I am not talking about an occasional typographical error. That happens to everyone. I am talking about a total lack of attention to detail.

Why does this bug me you ask? Well, I am certainly glad that you asked. Let's look at the reasons. First, as someone that speaks more than one language it is extremely difficult to follow written communication in the second language when dealing with typos. There are a ton of colloquialisms used on this forum. Those, and slang terminology make it difficult enough to follow without adding in a total disregard for spelling and grammar rules that any fifth grader should know.

Now, put non-native speakers aside for a second. We are a community. Supposedly a community of intelligent people. This forum shows up on Google for certain technical queries. That means that people outside of our community will come here seeking knowledge from time to time. Do we want the impression they get of WarDrivers to be juvenile punks with no basic communication skills? I don't want that.

Third, as mentioned above, emotion is difficult to convey in the written word. It is even more difficult when you have to wade through a paragraph of ub3r 1337 h4x0r speak dat ur n07 int3re5ted in neway. Your post is much more likely to be misconstrued if you don't take the time to spell out what you mean and formulate a coherent thought.

Fourth, this isn't AIM, IRC, ICQ, SMS or any other real time chat application. In those type of services a person often needs to quickly get their response across otherwise it gets lost in the sea of other responses. It also helps a conversation flow to quickly get a response out. This forum isn't real time. You have the luxury of time to formulate a response and the ability to directly quote the person you are responding to in order to clarify the reason your response is relevant.

Finally, and this goes hand in hand with my second point. It makes you look ignorant if you don't use proper grammar and spelling. It's as simple as that. Contrary to the evidence presented here from time to time, I do not think the core 'OC' user is ignorant. I do think some of us are lazy. They go hand in hand. There is a reason that sloth is one of the seven deadly sins.

So, in conclusion, make an attempt at proper grammar and spelling when you post. The meaning of your post is much more likely to come across as you intended and you will not look foolish (or if you do it will be for the content of your post, not the presentation).
Man you wrote a decent essay there, you should get that published. I am thinking of sticking that in my sig, the bit about "ub3r 1337 h4x0r speak dat ur n07 int3re5ted in neway." I loved that, genius.

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humm for me is a bit difficult!!
english is my second lang! when it comes to speak i think i will be alright!! but when it comes to wirte i suck at spelling and grammar!!
thats why i wrote "english is my second (lang)!! cos i dont know how to spell that!! i only the frist four @@
i think you are right but i can only try....!!
but right from the start!!! i love overclock.net!! not only because here is friendlly!! but also this is the place that i get away from my sucking english and more important my girl friend!!
i dont care if you guys are using what ever type of english
but just dont count this in cos we are all with love with our computer!!
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post #44 of 49 (permalink) Old 08-19-2005, 01:20 PM
 
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Btw, i don't love my computer, spicy. I too hate stuff like "how r u doing"? and "l337 baNanA pi3."
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humm for me is a bit difficult!!
english is my second lang! when it comes to speak i think i will be alright!! but when it comes to wirte i suck at spelling and grammar!!
Usually it is pretty clear when English is not someone's primary language. I don't think most people begrudge anyone that, I know I don't. Just do the best you can.

It's the people that intentionally mangle the language that cause me the most grief. Avoid d00dz-speak and instant message abbreviaton abuse, and I'm satisfied.

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humm for me is a bit difficult!!
english is my second lang! when it comes to speak i think i will be alright!! but when it comes to wirte i suck at spelling and grammar!!
Did you know, it is mine also. I too have grammatical mistakes and a lot of spelling mistakes. But I do my best, such as capitalize when needed; if I am unsure about how a word is spelt, I check out ye ole google. Another person with said problem is Xaimus. His "first" language would be Spanish. So, in this case, I don't take too much pity on you, especially when you use "cos". Last point I would like to make is, most countries teach English in Elementary - High Schools, it's rough English, but it is correct English.

Last of all, if you are unsure of a post, ctrl A + ctrl C then open up gmail and do a compose mail, or better yet, open up sometime of "Word" (Be it Microsoft Office or OpenOffice) programme and paste it in there and have it run a grammar and spelling check. It requires maybe a whole 2 minutes more and shows an increasing level of intelligence.
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I try to use full words and propper grammer because I have whatpulse.

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why do you spread lies

why.
I lie because I can. Just because I'm a R3TARD does NOT by any means give you a reason to reguard me as completely ********. I was a tad ******** when it was made, keep clicking and it shall eventually work itself out.

And, the comma question that some one asked, the comma should be before. But i have some good news, i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance .. ba rum pum pshh, cue the bad joke!

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Btw, i don't love my computer, spicy. I too hate stuff like "how r u doing"? and "l337 baNanA pi3."

"NE1 ^ 4 4 g4m3?" (just made it up) ((anyone up for a game, is that too hard to type out?)

And also, there is a difference between making typos and etc or not speaking english very well (we are an international site you know) and replacing letters with numbers or slashing words down to a few letters, that is what we are trying to avoid, if you type like "I lost me power supply" instead of "my" then that is ok.

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