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post #20501 of 20564 (permalink) Old 09-20-2019, 03:15 AM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by D13mass View Post
Guys, a question to PHANTEKS ECLIPSE P600S users: is white glacier? And how glacier it is?
I can`t choose between grey color and white color. I like my Meshify С white, because it matches with my mouse/CPU cooler etc, but I can`t imagine how 600S could reflect light and it is really like a fridge in interior?
"Glacier White" is not as white as "Pure White". Best way to know is find the case somewhere and look. Next best would be go into a couple different paint stores and compare color chips.

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post #20502 of 20564 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 05:12 AM
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Can we place the front fan on the outside, on the side of front panel and filter? So the radiator can take the inside and the hard drive bay can be free to mount beside the motherboard.
It is possible if you don't use the mesh filter. But I think you have to consider that fans installed like this will be closer to the front panel and I guess this will be negative to airflow intake and consequently to noise.

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post #20503 of 20564 (permalink) Old 09-22-2019, 06:00 AM - Thread Starter
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Can we place the front fan on the outside, on the side of front panel and filter? So the radiator can take the inside and the hard drive bay can be free to mount beside the motherboard.
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It is possible if you don't use the mesh filter. But I think you have to consider that fans installed like this will be closer to the front panel and I guess this will be negative to airflow intake and consequently to noise.
The rule of thumb in airflow industry is at least a fan's diameter in clearance, less than that and we'll be choking the fan. But cases often have less .. like most case front and bottom fans are way too close to front cover / floor. I use open center caster bases under my builds to increase bottom clearance to about 4-5cm. Fan noise is much lower and airflow is much higher.

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post #20504 of 20564 (permalink) Old 09-23-2019, 04:40 AM
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I think I will go with the following rads setup:

2 x 360 Alphacool NexXxos XT45 V.2 for bottom and top
1 x 480 Alphacool NexXxos XT45 V.2 for front
1 x 480 XSPC TX for side

Once I receive the chasis I will confirm if I have enough space for this to then order the radiators. My next concern is if with one D5 pump will be enough to maintain a good flow rate with this setup, but lets go step by step

Cheers!

I think you hare having delusions of grandeur.
You wont fit 2x 480 rads in this case. Best you will do with a shoe horn and tight squeeze would be 3X 360 and 1X 480.
Once you put one in the front there is no room to get one in the side, its an either or. I have an enthoo elite and it makes thise case look like a NUC. Im running 2X 480 and one 360 in the front. I could have jammed another 240, 280 or 360 in the bottom but that puts two rads competing for air flow. Mine is a single loop and 2 GPUs.

Rememer you still have to get a res and pump in there. Personally I always run at least two D5 pumps for a few reasons. Flow, redundancy and you can tune them to offset each other where together they create a harmonic thats not as loud, think noise cancelling headphones. Personally Im running 3 D5s

If I were to employ this case with a single GPU it would be a 480 in the top, BS 360 in the bottom unless you want to go vertical with the GPU then the 360 in the front. Fans on the outside can bbe done with thin fans but dont count on the best flow as the clearance between the fan and the front cover is minimal. I did this with the elite and not much space left. Good airflow I think would be better than more rads that will be fighting each other. For you componenets Id do the 480 and 360 both blowing out and 3 x 120 fans in the side pulling fresh air in. You dont want to dump hot air in through one rad for the other to be sucking the hot air though it and back out.

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I think you hare having delusions of grandeur.
You wont fit 2x 480 rads in this case.
You can fit 2 rads, in it. GGF Events confirmed this in the comments of his review video. You have to use a slim rad in the side mount, with the fans on the back of the MB tray.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
I think you hare having delusions of grandeur.
You wont fit 2x 480 rads in this case. Best you will do with a shoe horn and tight squeeze would be 3X 360 and 1X 480.
Once you put one in the front there is no room to get one in the side, its an either or. I have an enthoo elite and it makes thise case look like a NUC. Im running 2X 480 and one 360 in the front. I could have jammed another 240, 280 or 360 in the bottom but that puts two rads competing for air flow. Mine is a single loop and 2 GPUs.

Rememer you still have to get a res and pump in there. Personally I always run at least two D5 pumps for a few reasons. Flow, redundancy and you can tune them to offset each other where together they create a harmonic thats not as loud, think noise cancelling headphones. Personally Im running 3 D5s

If I were to employ this case with a single GPU it would be a 480 in the top, BS 360 in the bottom unless you want to go vertical with the GPU then the 360 in the front. Fans on the outside can bbe done with thin fans but dont count on the best flow as the clearance between the fan and the front cover is minimal. I did this with the elite and not much space left. Good airflow I think would be better than more rads that will be fighting each other. For you componenets Id do the 480 and 360 both blowing out and 3 x 120 fans in the side pulling fresh air in. You dont want to dump hot air in through one rad for the other to be sucking the hot air though it and back out.
Many thanks for your comments. This case room for rads is 360 / 420 top; 480 / 420 front, 480 side, and 360 / 140 bottom.

I was having a look at GGF video, as DanS79 mentioned, and I could see that installing 2x480 rads is possible. The only thing you have to deal with is that you only have 30mm room on the side position to install a rad without blocking the front rad+fans. This is the reason for which I am going with the XSPC TX rad (20mm thick) for the side room.

The reason I go with Alphacool NexXxos XT45 V2 for bottom is because you are limited to 125mm max width rads (NexXxos is 124mm width). Then room for front rad without blocking 360mm bottom rad installed is 78 mm, so, again, with the NexXxos XT45 V2 + fans (25mm) make 70 mm of thickness so I guess I will have enough room to install it. For the top rad, 360mm seems to be fine.

I was also thinking about air pressure and I will install bottom, front and side radiator fans pushing from the outside of the case to the interior. Then the air will go out through top radiator fans and also through rear fan. This will generate a possitive air pressure and considering that this setup is overkill for this config, I guess that inside air temp will be easy to deal with and won't overheat the loop.

Of course I may be wrong with my idea because on the paper everything is easier, but the best thing I can do is to try it while I enjoy the process. I've ordered all the rads and the fittings (I will also re-use parts from my current rig) while I wait for the new hardware, but I am thinking about trying first with my current setup ([email protected],2 Ghz and 1080 Ti @ 2025 Mhz) to anticipate potential issues with the WC setup.

Many thanks again for your help and tips

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Quote: Originally Posted by MoDeNa View Post
Many thanks for your comments. This case room for rads is 360 / 420 top; 480 / 420 front, 480 side, and 360 / 140 bottom.

I was having a look at GGF video, as DanS79 mentioned, and I could see that installing 2x480 rads is possible. The only thing you have to deal with is that you only have 30mm room on the side position to install a rad without blocking the front rad+fans. This is the reason for which I am going with the XSPC TX rad (20mm thick) for the side room.

The reason I go with Alphacool NexXxos XT45 V2 for bottom is because you are limited to 125mm max width rads (NexXxos is 124mm width). Then room for front rad without blocking 360mm bottom rad installed is 78 mm, so, again, with the NexXxos XT45 V2 + fans (25mm) make 70 mm of thickness so I guess I will have enough room to install it. For the top rad, 360mm seems to be fine.

I was also thinking about air pressure and I will install bottom, front and side radiator fans pushing from the outside of the case to the interior. Then the air will go out through top radiator fans and also through rear fan. This will generate a possitive air pressure and considering that this setup is overkill for this config, I guess that inside air temp will be easy to deal with and won't overheat the loop.

Of course I may be wrong with my idea because on the paper everything is easier, but the best thing I can do is to try it while I enjoy the process. I've ordered all the rads and the fittings (I will also re-use parts from my current rig) while I wait for the new hardware, but I am thinking about trying first with my current setup ([email protected],2 Ghz and 1080 Ti @ 2025 Mhz) to anticipate potential issues with the WC setup.

Many thanks again for your help and tips
I dont think you can fit all that in there. It gives you positions but not that they will all fit in there. My Enthoo Elite gives multiple positions also but no way its all going to fit. Specs say a 480 in the front but once I put one in the top and bottom I could only do a 360 in the front and the 360 in the front wont let me put a 360 in the back. Best bet is to get the case in hand then buy rads later. Then you will know for sure and enlighten everyone else.

I thought the heated air wouldn't be an issue either. Had issues. Dropped one rad between the basement of my case and put all rads blowing out and fans pushing in fresh air in the back and side. Cool and quiet now. I consider mine overkill especially with the 120 for every component rule that I thinks is crapola. @x 480 rads with push pull and one 360 with pull only and the intake fans do quite a good job with a 9940X and a pair of 2080Tis.

Good luck with the build!

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i think i will finally join the club!!!

i bought the case (checks amazon..) ah well, may 2016 and i FINALLY built a new computer. Before you ask, i got the enthoo primo from amazon for 132cad (crazy good deal i thought) and i figured i would build a new system. Over 3 years later, i finally did it!!!

sad part, i never opened the box and the top vent clip is broken.. BAHHHHHH

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i think i will finally join the club!!!

i bought the case (checks amazon..) ah well, may 2016 and i FINALLY built a new computer. Before you ask, i got the enthoo primo from amazon for 132cad (crazy good deal i thought) and i figured i would build a new system. Over 3 years later, i finally did it!!!

sad part, i never opened the box and the top vent clip is broken.. BAHHHHHH
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For your broken top vent clip, try calling or emailing Phanteks support about it.

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Hi again! Finally I received all the WC stuff and I am going to rethink the loop, as JustinThyme pointed. It is not possible to fit both 480mm at the same time because I don't have space for the fittings

Finally I will be using the following:

- Top: Alphacool NexXxos XT45 360mm V2
- Front: Alphacool NexXxos XT45 480mm V2
- Bottom: Alphacool NexXxos XT45 360mm V2
- Pump: 1 x Protium D5 with 200mm reservoir
- Fans: 10 x Noctua NF A12-25 PWM in push config for the rads and 4 Noctua AF A12-25 for side room of the case (fresh air in)
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Do you think that this setup will be enough to cool a Ryzen 3900x with one RTX 2080 Ti with fans spinning at 800rpm maximum?

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