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post #4411 of 4421 (permalink) Old 01-28-2019, 05:11 PM
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Not sure this will help

Hello,

Not sure how useful this will be but welcome.

I believe that the case and PSU are the closest to future resistant components available. I bought the X9 because of that.

I have migrated my old air cooled system into this case; phase one. Phase two is upgrade my system in two steps: Something a lot more modern that my venerable Intel Lynnfield CPU based system.

Step one - a Noctua air cooler for the new system while acquiring the fans and rads I need for phase two water cooling.

It is this initial phase I hope will prove useful to you.

1) you can have fans blowing both in and out anywhere.
2) We can control, to a large part the case pressure via fan speeds, i.e. slow down the outward directed fans and speed up in inward directed ones.
3) One AIO rad / fan should be well within what you can compensate for with the rest of your fans.
4) With all due respect and deference, we have more options on where to hang fans in the X9 that Carter has liver pills. :-) If the AIO's lines are long enough the side as an intake won't seriously mess up obtaining your goal of positive pressure.

I have ordered two Noctua 200mm fans for front and top. Cannot afford some of my other parts yet so on ward and up ward on accumulating parts to water cool this beast. :-)

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Quote: Originally Posted by noobian3d View Post
Hi All,


I just bought what is probably one of the last X9's (i heard they are discontinued!). Late to the party i know.


It has not arrived yet, but i have been spending some time trying to figure out how i am going to setup my fans.



The only water cooling will be a corsair h105 for the CPU, my GPUs are air cooled.



The main question i'd like some input on is whether it would be a bad idea to have a mixture of intake and exhaust fans on the top. Whether that be one side intake, one side exhaust or do it the other way and have 4 at the rear and 4 at the front as intake/exhaust.



Originally i was going to go all exhaust on the top, with the cpu rad also mounted at the top as for towards the front of the case as possible. But i am worried that is too much exhaust and will end up not having positive air pressure in the case



im almost certainly going to run one 200mm intake on the bottom front, the rest is tbd.


would love some advice


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post #4412 of 4421 (permalink) Old 02-17-2019, 09:22 AM
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FWIW: given the current issue with Thermaltake „Pastel” coolant and the legal tangle with Mayhems (which I deeply respect), here's what I am going to do:
1. I will pause my current projects (two of them) based on Thermaltake cases.
2. I will use other cases for my projects, while losing both time and money redesigning my builds
3. I will stop using Thermaltake cases now and in the future until the issue with Mayhems is resolved.
4. I will no longer use any products made by Thermaltake.

Sorry Thermaltake, but you screwed up for the last time as far as I am concerned.

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Probably the best decision you could make. All this company does is steal other designs and then makes them with metal so thin and cheap, they'll bend if you look at them wrong.

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Quote: Originally Posted by war4peace View Post
FWIW: given the current issue with Thermaltake „Pastel” coolant and the legal tangle with Mayhems (which I deeply respect), here's what I am going to do:
1. I will pause my current projects (two of them) based on Thermaltake cases.
2. I will use other cases for my projects, while losing both time and money redesigning my builds
3. I will stop using Thermaltake cases now and in the future until the issue with Mayhems is resolved.
4. I will no longer use any products made by Thermaltake.

Sorry Thermaltake, but you screwed up for the last time as far as I am concerned.
Likewise. I was gonna get one of their CaseLab ripoffs, but not anymore
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A few pages back there was uncertainty over whether or not you could mount 420mm radiators on the top rails of a Core X5 case. Well, it can be done - see the attached photos. You will need to put fans between the rails and the radiators though - the rads won't fit directly onto the rails. You will also need to drill four/eight new holes on the rails for the screws of the three/six 140mm fans.
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Quote: Originally Posted by RaGran View Post
A few pages back there was uncertainty over whether or not you could mount 420mm radiators on the top rails of a Core X5 case. Well, it can be done - see the attached photos. You will need to put fans between the rails and the radiators though - the rads won't fit directly onto the rails. You will also need to drill 8 new holes on the rails for the screws of the three 140mm fans.
I notice you used slim rads. Do you think you could fit 65mm thick rads and still clear the GPU block?

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I notice you used slim rads. Do you think you could fit 65mm thick rads and still clear the GPU block?
Owner of X5 here: you cannot. Not fully, at least. The top of the water block will not allow you to mount a fan there. I could only fit 5 fans on the two EKWB XE360 radiators.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ChiTownButcher View Post
I notice you used slim rads. Do you think you could fit 65mm thick rads and still clear the GPU block?
I measured the clearance between the radiator and GPU block and it was roughly 38mm. The radiator is an Alphacool NexXxos ST30 420mm, which is specified as 30mm tall. However, the answer to your question depends most on the height of the GPU block as they do not all share the same dimensions. Mine is a Bykski N-RTX2080TI-X, which is rated as 127,3mm tall. It is not the shortest or tallest one. For example, the Watercool Heatkiller IV is 117,25 mm tall.

It would also be a good idea to check if a 60/65mm thick radiator would be more powerful than a 45mm radiator of the same brand in a push setup (only one set of fans on top), as you won't be able to fit a push/pull setup on the 60/65 at least. With some brands 45mm may be equally powerful in a push setup.

A thicker radiator will also leave less room to work on the rest of the setup. I went with the 30mm thick ones as I wanted to use a bay reserve and also have the fittings on the front end of the case and also have the fans run on low rpm, which gives advantage to less thick radiators.

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It's all about radiator size, my MoRa 420 is 65mm thick (or 60? I don't remember) and is cooled by 4x 230mm fans which are always at 375-380 RPM (voltage-driven, so the RPM varies a tiny bit), coolant stays at 33 degrees Celsius during heavy gaming. When I had dual-360mm/60mm thick radiators, the fans had to spin at 1200 RPM to keep the coolant at 40 degrees Celsius (which is my target in AquaSuite).

I have tested push-pull versus push only and the greatest improvement compared to push-only is at low RPMs (500-900). Anything above that yields a very low improvement (under 1 degree Celsius at 1500 RPM).

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Quote: Originally Posted by war4peace View Post
It's all about radiator size, my MoRa 420 is 65mm thick (or 60? I don't remember) and is cooled by 4x 230mm fans which are always at 375-380 RPM (voltage-driven, so the RPM varies a tiny bit), coolant stays at 33 degrees Celsius during heavy gaming. When I had dual-360mm/60mm thick radiators, the fans had to spin at 1200 RPM to keep the coolant at 40 degrees Celsius (which is my target in AquaSuite).
A radiator with more surface are will be more powerful, yes. For the thickness it's less straightforward and depends on the fan setup. In the xtremerigs radiator roundup test (at https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/ ), at 750rpm push the Alphacool 30mm radiator was actually slightly more powerful than the 60mm one and of the same brand radiators the 45mm radiator was the most powerful one. At other rpm / fan setups, this was different though and the thicker radiators had more cooling power.
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