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Phanteks Primo Measurements Resource

FAQ Measurements
Applies to 480mm Radiators:
  • Bottom Radiator clearance between 5.25" OD side panel and PSU shroud = 126-127mm (see pics in general)
  • Top Radiator clearance between OD drive sides = 145mm

Reservoir Bracket Measurements Provided by Phanteks Team (posted originally by @Strider49
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Originally Posted by Phanteks Team

Even with the revised bracket** the clearance won’t fit a GPU larger than 257mm with cover.

Clearance
Graphic card
257mm (reservoir bracket installed)

277mm (reservoir bracket installed w/o cover)

350mm (no reservoir bracket)

390mm (HDD cages in front position)

515mm (no HDD cages)
** Phanteks released a Revised reservoir bracket to accommodate dual GPU configurations easier and without modification to the bracket. This change happened sometime in Q4 2015.

** For more text measurements you can also refer to the 1st post of the Phanteks Case Club FAQ here. **


Picture Measurements:
- Alphacool UT60 and XT45 Measurements in Push/Pull orientation, with 24mm and 38mm fans (bottom of case only)
- Also included some measurements and visuals of XT45 in top position of case, with/without fans.

Disclaimer: These may be off a few millimeter due to holding the tape at a very slight angle in some cases, or due to optical illusion from camera angle, but for the most part they should be useful as reference or within 1-3mm actual.

General Measurements Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

















Alphacool XT45 480 in Top, with measurements Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Another Disclaimer tongue.gif the hanging drive cage that I measured up to was unsupported at the time, and naturally sags probably 2-3 mm at the very end of it, (farthest point from front) so you may have to take that into account with the measurements up to the drive cage.

Alphacool XT45 480 Radiator in Bottom Push/Pull 24mm Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Alphacool XT45 480 Radiator in Bottom Push/Pull 38mm Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Alphacool UT60 480 Radiator in Bottom Push/Pull 24mm Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)





Alphacool UT60 480 Radiator in Bottom Push/Pull 38mm Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)





I can take some other measurements right now by request, since my case is all apart and it's easy. Once I get it all assembled it may be harder/impossible thumb.gif Enjoy


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Does the 480 still fit in the case bottom if you leave the lower section of of ODD panel in place? I see you have cut yours so it shows the entire length of the 480m rad.

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Does the 480 still fit in the case bottom if you leave the lower section of of ODD panel in place? I see you have cut yours so it shows the entire length of the 480m rad.

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Actually I didn't cut mine, the entire section is removable with regular screws. I just removed it for construction/modding. The Alphacool rads up to 480 will fit width wise while keeping the whole side cover in tact.


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How wide of a radiator will fit in the top and bottom? I tried reading the pics but the rotations are throwing me off.
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420 up top if you remove the drive cage and its supporting panel. same on bottom. Generally any radiator larger then a 140.2 will require removal of the entire drive cage area. 120mm sized rads however do not.

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420 up top if you remove the drive cage and its supporting panel. same on bottom. Generally any radiator larger then a 140.2 will require removal of the entire drive cage area. 120mm sized rads however do not.

I meant width not length. I was going to put a 480 in the top but need to know how wide a radiator will fit, there's plenty of info for length but I haven't found width.
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I meant width not length. I was going to put a 480 in the top but need to know how wide a radiator will fit, there's plenty of info for length but I haven't found width.

480 is a 120.4 radiator, so 120mm + a few mm

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420 up top if you remove the drive cage and its supporting panel. same on bottom. Generally any radiator larger then a 140.2 will require removal of the entire drive cage area. 120mm sized rads however do not.

I meant width not length. I was going to put a 480 in the top but need to know how wide a radiator will fit, there's plenty of info for length but I haven't found width.

I'm pretty sure the top has more clearance than the bottom as far as width. Bottom width with the 5.25" side panel is at least 124mm clearance. You can fit Alphacool series radiators in bottom with no clearance issue. It can be tight if you run a Monsta radiator, since the grommet on the side will bump the radiator over 2-3mm and you may actually have to remove the grommet to fit that side panel back on.

I can probably take a top measurement and post tomorrow.

I found some bottom measurements and posted them under General, looks like maximum bottom rad clearance is roughly 126-127mm judging by the picture.

Edit: I thought I had a picture measuring the width of the optical bay, that is the width that will determine radiator support. I measured it out at 145mm so at least some models of 420 radiator will fit up there and slide all the way to front if needed.


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It is worth noting that the bottom of the Primo case is NOT fully vented. mad.gif

There is a sold section that blocks airflow for a 120.3 or bigger radiator - (BAD design - IMO). The factory makes a depression that is solid for the front foot of the small mount it comes with that can hold two 140 fans and is removable - thumb screws. This solid section will block 30% or so of the third 120 fan.

My Alphacool XT45 - 120.3 is a tight squeeze in the bottom; (side to side) due to the rubber grommets and 124.5 mm rad width on the housing of my rads.

So, either you drill a bunch of holes into the bottom of the case, custom make a frame to raise the bottom rad to allow room or purchase a shroud to give room to breath.

For a case advertised as taking large radiators on the bottom - I found this design oversight to be very frustrating. [come on Phanteks: either perforate the whole bottom or include a bottom stand for 120.3 or bigger rads.]

My Alphacool XT-45 120.3 fit in the top very easy, push/pull with 25mm fans. I placed the top fans above the case mount, rad against case from underneath, then bottom fans mounted to rad. -top grill fits just fine.

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That is true, my case was modded for these pictures and I cut out the whole 480 length of the bottom of the case and installed a custom grill. The stock case bottom definitely has some restriction there, lots of honeycomb across the bottom but there is that one section that is solidly blocked, annoying for sure if you are using a large radiator.

I found a pic before I took it to the dremel, showing the support structure at the bottom.


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