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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-21-2019, 11:45 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi Flyinion, I'm in the exact same boat with the same Case (HAF-X purchased in 2010 when it first came out) and same cooler (NH-D14), and I really want to upgrade Cases, but have no idea what to get. I've been looking for a good 6 months, but nothing stands out to me.

I'll start a new thread probably (I think I still want at least 1 x 5.25inch bay and might want to stay with air cooling), but just wanted to ask similar question to the OP. How much better would these newer AIO liquid coolers be over my NH-D14, and also, if the area you live in is dusty (it's very windy here so I regularly have to blow out the dust in my Case with an air compressor), do you have have to regularly clean the radiator? Will I be able to blow out the dust with an Air Compressor?

Oh, and how are these AIO liquid coolers in regards to water leaks? The main reason I've stayed so long with the NH-D14 is because I leave my PC on 24/7 and I was worried about water leaks when I'm not home or asleep. Would you guys still recommend water cooling if you leave the PC on 24/7?
So I've been looking into the water cooling quite a bit since I started looking at cases. Especially cause some are marginal for fitting the D14. What I've seen is most of the higher quality AIO will surpass the stock D14 and match or slightly better than the D15. One product I'm interested in (and there are similar) is the Eisbaer from Alphacool https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2YM-0007-00191 It's not a closed loop AIO. You can actually open it to refill it, and add in a GPU version as well. It's not much more $$$ (relatively vs custom loop) than most of the high end AIO's from the other companies either. I will say that I was told by the company I've been talking to about water cooling (not Newegg) that they don't recommend going bigger than the 280 version because the pump isn't powerful enough to be more effective in the 360 version for instance. I.e. it will still cool but not really any better than the 280 and is kind of a waste of $$ due to that. Apparently a benefit of adding in the GPU version though is now you have two pumps and if one fails you still have the second running.

As far as cases I think so far I'm zeroing in on Phanteks Evolv X, Luxe or maybe the Luxe 2 if it comes out soon enough, or maybe a CM H500M even though it has some cheap plastic apparently but 4xUSB 3 and 1 USB C on the front is really tempting. I thought about the NZXT H700i but while it would be a great case for custom loops etc., I'm not sure I like the really plain exterior look of it, not a fan of the large amount of white, and the all black one loses the nice contrast of the colored cable cover. The red and blue ones are a bit much as well mostly because once you pick one of those you're stuck with that color unless you repaint down the road if you want to change how things look.

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Hi Flyinion, I'm in the exact same boat with the same Case (HAF-X purchased in 2010 when it first came out) and same cooler (NH-D14), and I really want to upgrade Cases, but have no idea what to get. I've been looking for a good 6 months, but nothing stands out to me.

I'll start a new thread probably (I think I still want at least 1 x 5.25inch bay and might want to stay with air cooling), but just wanted to ask similar question to the OP. How much better would these newer AIO liquid coolers be over my NH-D14, and also, if the area you live in is dusty (it's very windy here so I regularly have to blow out the dust in my Case with an air compressor), do you have have to regularly clean the radiator? Will I be able to blow out the dust with an Air Compressor?

Oh, and how are these AIO liquid coolers in regards to water leaks? The main reason I've stayed so long with the NH-D14 is because I leave my PC on 24/7 and I was worried about water leaks when I'm not home or asleep. Would you guys still recommend water cooling if you leave the PC on 24/7?
You dont want a CLC cooler if you got a D14
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Hey guys bringing this back up for a bit more feedback. I'm still looking, and due to a massive tax bill, looks like I'll have a few more months to figure it out too

I think right now I'm looking at the following cases. I just can't decide. I originally was seriously thinking about the Evolv X but the price and some of the issues I read like potential cable issues with the folding SSD mounts have me a little nervous about it. My plan I think at this point is to definitely go water cooled though probably with one of the 280 or 360 cooling kits from modmymods that is basically a full custom loop just in kit form ready to assemble instead of picking parts individually.

Evolv X
Enthoo Luxe 2 (but who knows when it will be out)
PC-O11 Dynamic

The only real issue I see with any of those was if I tried to move my current stuff into it and didn't have water cooling yet, the Lian Li will NOT fit the Noctua cooler I have due to the raised mobo platform design in the case. I also thought about a P600S from Phanteks since it's basically the Evolv X with a different exterior skin and no built in RGB, but I kinda want the RGB lol. I'm not opposed to skipping it though.

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I've also gotten some recommendations for the CM H500M. Seems interesting with the interchangeable front and top panels. Not sure how it compares for sure to the Phanteks or Lian Li stuff I've been looking at.

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If you want an air cooled system, I would go with a Silverstone RL06

If you want a water cooled system (aio or custom), I would go with the O11 Dynamic.

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If you want an air cooled system, I would go with a Silverstone RL06

If you want a water cooled system (aio or custom), I would go with the O11 Dynamic.

edit: changed link to glass panel version
Any thoughts on the H500M or P600S vs the O11? I was just thinking I'd narrowed down to those two until I saw your post. I am definitely planning on going water this time. However if I go with the O11 I also lose the ability to temporarily move my current build into the case while I work on acquiring parts and being able to re-arrange my desk to get the PC off the floor. This is because there's not enough clearance in the O11 for my Noctua cooler that I'm currently using. The other two cases would allow me to use it still. Also I read some comment on a review site that heating/cooling cycles in the O11 can cause problems like the front panel glass falling out? They mentioned needing to gorilla glue it back in place.

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Any thoughts on the H500M or P600S vs the O11? I was just thinking I'd narrowed down to those two until I saw your post. I am definitely planning on going water this time. However if I go with the O11 I also lose the ability to temporarily move my current build into the case while I work on acquiring parts and being able to re-arrange my desk to get the PC off the floor. This is because there's not enough clearance in the O11 for my Noctua cooler that I'm currently using. The other two cases would allow me to use it still. Also I read some comment on a review site that heating/cooling cycles in the O11 can cause problems like the front panel glass falling out? They mentioned needing to gorilla glue it back in place.
I wouldn't compromise a future build to temporarily fit current components. What is wrong with keeping your current case for your current build? Or temporarily using a stock heatsink or something cheap like a Hyper 212 EVO?

As for the problems you described, I wasn't aware of that. I don't own the case; my recommendation is based on reviews (mostly Gamers Nexus) and looks. I would still go with the O11 if all it takes to fix is some glue (or, most likely, nothing).
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I wouldn't compromise a future build to temporarily fit current components. What is wrong with keeping your current case for your current build? Or temporarily using a stock heatsink or something cheap like a Hyper 212 EVO?



As for the problems you described, I wasn't aware of that. I don't own the case; my recommendation is based on reviews (mostly Gamers Nexus) and looks. I would still go with the O11 if all it takes to fix is some glue (or, most likely, nothing).


Nothing wrong with keeping it. Just want to get it off the floor and the haf x isn't gonna work on my desk. Originally that actually kicked off the whole case search. Then I also realized I'm long overdue for an upgrade and since I'd have two cases my plan is to actually reuse the haf and old parts for a streaming server or something. However it might take me a bit to get all the parts especially since now I'll have to get parts I don't normally replace often like more drives.

Just thought it would be nice to get the current system off the floor until then. Of course if I buy the water stuff then the CPU cooler is a non issue. I could even get the 240mm eissbaer aio that I was originally eyeing and it could be reused when stuff went back in the haf case. That just adds a bit of extra $$ overall due to semi duplicating cooling.


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Soooo, I ended up going with the H500M from Coolermaster. None of the choices seemed perfect, but it ended up checking the most boxes. We'll see though, I can always send it back and go with something else if I don't like it. I'll have more of an idea Saturday. Debating whether to move the current stuff to it or not just to test out the QA/etc. on it. One thing that has always bugged me about the HAF is the rear panel seems slightly bowed out and I always had to push a bit if I wanted to get thumbscrews in to hold down the GPU. It wasn't much so I did it for quite a while but I'm not 100% convinced it's not putting too much stress on the socket so when I cleaned dust out and re-seated stuff last weekend due to some recent weirdness that I think is just a software issue I ended up ditching the thumbscrews and zip tying the gpu down to the rear panel. I do know an old aluminium Lian Li I had before that (Early 2000's full tower with just 80mm fans) was absolutely perfect on the rear panel and I never had any issues like that.

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