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Get a rack lol.

Super tower, first time I hear that term. Large cases are impractical and expensive. Most case makers stop at full tower size/ATX. Some offer EATX support. And these can pack in 10 HDDs. So no idea who the heck makes a super tower with 5 XD
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big builds are OUT!

small form factor is IN!

been away for a minute huh?

no offence but things like fan headers and such are why i keep small pair of needle nose pliers and tweezers around. i wish i could be more help but i can't really tell the difference w/super tower other than they seem to have a basement for the PSU making it taller but not wider than full towers.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
Get a rack lol.

Super tower, first time I hear that term. Large cases are impractical and expensive. Most case makers stop at full tower size/ATX. Some offer EATX support. And these can pack in 10 HDDs. So no idea who the heck makes a super tower with 5 XD
I've considered a rack, but...

a) The extra space taken up by a super tower compared to a full tower is far less than the space taken up by a NAS rack
b) Why should I have to invest in what's essentially an entirely new computer just because my case manufacturer didn't see fit to add enough 3.5" support?

And I agree, I have no idea what Corsair was thinking with the 1000D's mere five 3.5" support. Baffling.

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big builds are OUT!

small form factor is IN!

been away for a minute huh?

no offence but things like fan headers and such are why i keep small pair of needle nose pliers and tweezers around. i wish i could be more help but i can't really tell the difference w/super tower other than they seem to have a basement for the PSU making it taller but not wider than full towers.
No offense taken! I'm curious what you mean when you say small form factor is in. Is this a fashion thing, or is there something more to it? I don't really find much value in following trends for their own sake.

Super towers tend to be wider as well as longer/taller. That's important because otherwise the side fan won't fit in a full tower case with a large CPU heatsink. That's the predicament I'm in right now. And just in general it's easier to move your hand around when changing out components or doing cable management.

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Thermaltake Core W/WP/100/200, ... View 91, ...

https://www.thermaltake.com/chassis.aspx

Nanoxia Deep Silence 5, many HDDs but not huge, 11x3.5" + 4*5.25".

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Quote: Originally Posted by Aelius View Post
No offense taken! I'm curious what you mean when you say small form factor is in. Is this a fashion thing, or is there something more to it? I don't really find much value in following trends for their own sake.

Super towers tend to be wider as well as longer/taller. That's important because otherwise the side fan won't fit in a full tower case with a large CPU heatsink. That's the predicament I'm in right now. And just in general it's easier to move your hand around when changing out components or doing cable management.
SFF is getting a shoe box cramming everything into it and making it look nice. it does have several challenges to it that i can appreciate - not saying i want one though.

and i was looking from the side POV not the "front" but ok, i see what you mean. there are cubes that may suffice; where the PSU and HD cages are on the back on the mobo tray. thaty link jackCY posted has similar. (check cube cases on the left)

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opps that are horizonal mobo trays . .i think corsair has some if i check . .

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I've considered a rack, but...

a) The extra space taken up by a super tower compared to a full tower is far less than the space taken up by a NAS rack
b) Why should I have to invest in what's essentially an entirely new computer just because my case manufacturer didn't see fit to add enough 3.5" support?

And I agree, I have no idea what Corsair was thinking with the 1000D's mere five 3.5" support. Baffling.

No offense taken! I'm curious what you mean when you say small form factor is in. Is this a fashion thing, or is there something more to it? I don't really find much value in following trends for their own sake.

Super towers tend to be wider as well as longer/taller. That's important because otherwise the side fan won't fit in a full tower case with a large CPU heatsink. That's the predicament I'm in right now. And just in general it's easier to move your hand around when changing out components or doing cable management.

I think some of the issues here are pertaining to the fact that HDD/SSD capacity has increased, so manufacturers probably assume that most people that purchase their cases will be adopting larger disks and thus need fewer, and using their cases for the sparkles and not want to cram it full of HDDs.
5.25" bays are all but phased out at this point also, taking away the possibility of using that space for 3.5" disks.

My Stryker has room for 8x3.5", so using my current setup of dual bay Fan Controller, BluRay Drive and x6 HDD's it's fantastic. Unfortunately, with the way cases are going and an upgrade itch triggering, I'm going to have to offload some of my disks, even if I increased their capacity to viable means within my budget.

I was considering building a custom NAS from a spare case/CPU. I have a G3258 up in the loft I could probably utilise, or it'd be cheap as chips to get something I can undervolt and that runs efficiently, compared to a ready-made NAS enclosure.

I do hope you find what you're looking for, but do consider that you may have to make alternative plans like myself.

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Case only comes with cages for 4 so you have to buy 1-3 more cages from Phanteks if you want to have more than 4 drives

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Are pretty much all super tower sized cases going to have 10+ expansion slots, or might I find some super tower sized cases with fewer?
there's no need for a case that size unless you're stuffing it full of 2+ GPUs, and 2-4 120.3+ radiators... Not to mention "Super tower" isn't really an accepted form factor, it's just marketing jargon to separate the biggest of the cases from the full tower form factor. As someone with one of the largest PC cases on earth (STH10) I don't recommend going LARGE unless you actually plan to stuff it full of hardware. If not? Save yourself some space and some cash, & use NewEgg to sort by HDD slots. I just picked up a cheep CM case with a glass door that came with 2x 5 slot bays, with room for more.

If not, then go with slightly older mass production full towers. Most of them include 10 HDD slots, with the ability to buy additional bays. The 900D is not unique in this, more like, its one of the last enthusiast tier cases to give folks 3 HDD bays... As most of us just rip them out & toss them in the junk... Not to mention the 900D's structural integrity fails once you remove all those bays, allowing the whole case to flex with ease. You dodged a bullet not going with the 900D. As said above, it's overkill unless you're stuffing it full of multiple GPUs, n a few big radiators.

the enthusiast space is 99% about what looks good, n bays are ugly, so they've gone by the wayside in exchange for FPS increasing LEDs, glass, & garbage OEM fans with more FPS increasing LEDs. Who needs a massive array when you've got RGB?! ammirite?!

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there's no need for a case that size unless you're stuffing it full of 2+ GPUs, and 2-4 120.3+ radiators... Not to mention "Super tower" isn't really an accepted form factor, it's just marketing jargon to separate the biggest of the cases from the full tower form factor. As someone with one of the largest PC cases on earth (STH10) I don't recommend going LARGE unless you actually plan to stuff it full of hardware. If not? Save yourself some space and some cash, & use NewEgg to sort by HDD slots. I just picked up a cheep CM case with a glass door that came with 2x 5 slot bays, with room for more.

If not, then go with slightly older mass production full towers. Most of them include 10 HDD slots, with the ability to buy additional bays. The 900D is not unique in this, more like, its one of the last enthusiast tier cases to give folks 3 HDD bays... As most of us just rip them out & toss them in the junk... Not to mention the 900D's structural integrity fails once you remove all those bays, allowing the whole case to flex with ease. You dodged a bullet not going with the 900D. As said above, it's overkill unless you're stuffing it full of multiple GPUs, n a few big radiators.

the enthusiast space is 99% about what looks good, n bays are ugly, so they've gone by the wayside in exchange for FPS increasing LEDs, glass, & garbage OEM fans with more FPS increasing LEDs. Who needs a massive array when you've got RGB?! ammirite?!
I've spent countless hours doing further research, and it seems like almost all of the cases that offer 8+ HDD capacity put the HDDs in cages just behind the front intake. The 900D is one of very few that let you put them in a bottom compartment.

There are some more recent cases - like the Thermaltake View 91 - that let you put some behind the mobo tray, but these cases stupidly put glass panels in front of everything.

"Hey, so, you know how we have excellent airflow on this case, right? Well, I was thinking... why don't we ruin that by choking it all off with glass?"
"You're promoted!"

Anyway, another case that lets you put HDDs in a floor compartment is the Cosmos II, but they stupidly put a 200mm fan in the front! Like, hello, case manufacturers, big fans like that have a terrible ability to push air through resistance of any sort. (I say that as if they don't damn well know that already.) You can put a single 120mm instead, but on a case this size that's unacceptable.

"Hey, so, you know how we have the only case on the market with good airflow and high drive capacity? Well, I was thinking... why don't we ruin that by only allowing an intake fan that has no static pressure?"
"You're promoted!"

Soooo, here we are. I feel like my options are:

1) Used 900D (hoping that the person who listed the local ad didn't already sell it. AND hoping that I never need spare parts that are no longer manufactured)

2) 750D or some other equivalent cases that offers 3x3 drive cages (for 9 HDDs + maybe two or three from converting the 5.25" bays), accepting throttled air flow from front intakes having to overcome all that HDD resistance.

Am I, like, the only person on the face of the earth who wants good airflow and actually stores data on a few HDDs? I don't think I'm asking for much...

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what about the corsair cube?

i think most folks have resorted to external solutions, a home server, or caselab scale cases.

I have both, a home server & a ton of storage in my CaseLabs, but its all 1-2tb SSD, so it takes up very little space.

No reason to run HDD anymore really, SSDs out perform and last longer - so unless its for existing back stock until they die & get replaced...

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