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post #31 of 53 (permalink) Old 08-07-2019, 07:15 AM
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Don't forget the new Bitfenix Nova Mesh. It also has a really fine metallic front like the Phanteks P400A and the Cooler Master NR400/NR600. Just remove the filter it has next to the front mesh and you're golden (the filter really isn't necessary considering how similar to the phanteks and cooler master meshter it is).

I'm pretty sure the Bitfenix Enso Mesh is the same, so you could get that one as well. However both are 160mm fan clearance. Only the Cooler Master NR600 is 166mm, but the the build quality and the looks on the CM one are questionable.


P.S. Personally I've come to accept and plan around 160mm height for cooling for the future, there's plenty of great coolers that can fit in this height:

Noctua NH-D15S, Thermalright Silver Arrow T8 and Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT with best overall clearances for pci-e, vrm heatsinks and ram.

The new Noctua NH-U12A as a good premium option (the 3 above still have better performance to noise ratio).

The Phanteks PH-TC14PE with only the middle fan (shouldn't use dual towers any other way anyway), with a different screw/no screw and middle fan pushed down (however pci-e and VRM heatsink clearance is a bit iffy, and RAM clearance is quite problematic especially for high-end HEDT motherboards.

And the cheap king itself SilentiumPC Grandis 2 XE1436. Or if you're feeling nostalgic for Prolimatech stuff , you can order the Prolimatech Basic 83 from aliexpress (AM4 supported)

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@JMattes you're asking for a case with good airflow. The H510 has a good airflow along with better looking than the meshify and p400s. No bias but the NZXT has better build quality and premium feel than the other cases. Plus it's more forward looking with its mic/headphone combo (I wish I have this) and USB type-C in front-panel.

Although the meshify s2 has better airflow but you'll end up with too many dust on your PC. Same can be said with cases with too much mesh/holes.

I just own a H200i which has similar fan config to H510. Installed 2 1600 rpm front fans and 2 1200rpm exhaust fans and I live in tropical country and airflow is better than I expected.

EDIT: I think 510 has better cable management that the other suggested cases too. Those cable routes at the back are extremely helpful.

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Quote: Originally Posted by momonz View Post
@JMattes you're asking for a case with good airflow. The H510 has a good airflow along with better looking than the meshify and p400s. No bias but the NZXT has better build quality and premium feel than the other cases. Plus it's more forward looking with its mic/headphone combo (I wish I have this) and USB type-C in front-panel.

Although the meshify s2 has better airflow but you'll end up with too many dust on your PC. Same can be said with cases with too much mesh/holes.

I just own a H200i which has similar fan config to H510. Installed 2 1600 rpm front fans and 2 1200rpm exhaust fans and I live in tropical country and airflow is better than I expected.

EDIT: I think 510 has better cable management that the other suggested cases too. Those cable routes at the back are extremely helpful.

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It's literally the same fan config as with the older H500 which Gamers Nexus gave a generally good review. For H510 they didn't put a top exhaust which is very critical and important for H series cases. And you have to read their first few statements here:

"We didn’t go beyond the standard batch of tests for this one; for more fan configurations, check our original H500 review, since the chassis is effectively identical. We ran tests with the case noise normalized to 36dBA, without the front panel, and with our standardized fan layout. The standardized fan layout is three Noctua fans we’ve reserved for case testing, two 140mm front intake and one 120mm exhaust. Since the H510 Elite is already configured this way, the only difference from stock is the type of fan."

EDIT: a single exhaust fan is not enough. Also GN reviewed the elite. The H510 has one with single side panel TG.

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True, but the H series are really only worth getting if you really like the look of them. Airflow isn't great. It's not the worst but there are better options in the same price range.

To be fair, I'm a contrarian so I tend to avoid things just because they're popular lol. I would never own something like an H500/H510 or Meshify C because everyone and their brother has one.

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One thing to remember with the H500/H510 vs Meshify debate is that the former has limited options if you find you need additional airflow. The Meshify's design (multiple fan mounts on front and top) is more flexible in this regard.
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No one here is denying meshify's airflow advantage over h510. H510 is compact compared to the meshify s2. Meshify-C is has outdated ports. 510 has good airflow. OP can check other's experience with 500/510 though.

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Quote: Originally Posted by momonz View Post
No one here is denying meshify's airflow advantage over h510. H510 is compact compared to the meshify s2. Meshify-C is has outdated ports. 510 has good airflow. OP can check other's experience with 500/510 though.
The OP is looking for good airflow, and the Meshify's is superior to the H510, as well as providing options for improvement.

The Meshify C is all of 7mm wider, 19mm deeper and 7mm shorter. The extra width provides more room for cable management. Nobody cares about a single 3.5mm jack when PC headsets come with splitters in the box. A Type C port is nice, but the loss of a Type A port makes life more difficult for anyone using an external drive.
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The OP's first choice is H510. He's concern about its airflow which I would recommend it's not a concern since it really has a good airflow.
He is looking for good airflow at the very least <--- THIS

H510 cable management is way better than Meshify C. At least one usb type C is a must if you're building a new PC right now. We are on the transition. Yes it's a bummer it only has a single type A.

OP is also looking for a compact case.

"Nobody cares about a single 3.5mm jack when PC headsets come with splitters in the box." - This is what I am doing right now and that small dongle is annoying to keep around when you're using the same headset for your desktop, laptop, cellphone, console.

H510 is better looking than Meshify C (subjective) and is better build quality.

I am also familiar with Meshify C because I also considered this as my next case coming from H440.

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Quote: Originally Posted by momonz View Post
The OP's first choice is H510. He's concern about its airflow which I would recommend it's not a concern since it really has a good airflow.
He is looking for good airflow at the very least <--- THIS
The point is that the Meshify's airflow is better, and can be easily improved if needed. With the H510, you're stuck if it turns out be inadequate.

[edit] removed the rest as JMattes has stated the Meshify S2 is under consideration, not the C. The above statement remains true for the S2, which also has a Type C port.

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