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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 08-13-2019, 05:14 PM
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JMattes said he was interested in the Meshify S2, why are you guys on about the Meshify C? They're entirely different cases.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
JMattes said he was interested in the Meshify S2, why are you guys on about the Meshify C? They're entirely different cases.
You're right. Momonz brought up the Meshify C for some reason, and I just responded. The S2 is notably larger than the H510, but I'd assume the H510 is not a candidate if JMattes needs the E-ATX compatibility or additional drive mounts.
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Glad to see the conversation still going, sorry I haven't checked in lately. Heres a few comments to clear things up.

I don't need amazing airflow, I kind of wanted good airflow where my parts won't overheat and catch fire. The CPU will be on the H115 Pro and the 2070 Super Gigabyte Gaming OC has 3 fans.. I also have enough fans to fill most cases fan slots and do push/pull on the H115 Pro.. So I guess I can force good airflow in a case that doesn't have it stock..

1) Meshify C- as nice as it is and as much as I probably would of gotten it despite it being dated.. My GPU won't fit in it or may if I forced it, it's that tight.

2) S2 - not a bad option but it is bigger than what I really wanted and it was towards the higher end of the price range and left a lot of room between the gpu and front rad set up.. too much room really

3) P400A - havent seen a real review on how the front mesh actually helps. The original P400 a was ok but there were some stupid design issues that I don't think they fixed in the A version and at its core its a budget case and build quality wasn't better than H510 at similar price.

4) H510 Elite - Let just not talk about how this is a gimmick case with probably worse airflow than the original version.

5) H510 Standard - This is what I was leaning originally as I like the look and the cable management design. Only started changing my mind after everyone started talking about better airflow cases.. I didn't think my original post read that amazing airflow was a must, but I';d have to go read it again.

I havent bought anything yet as the P400A isn't really available yet, and the H510 just showed up yesterday at my local MC, but not the color i wanted. That I haven't had time and will be travelling all next week. I think I am leaning towards the H510i even at the $120 because I am a sucker for a nice looking side panel with lights even if I can't see it too well based on orientation.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JMattes View Post
Glad to see the conversation still going, sorry I haven't checked in lately. Heres a few comments to clear things up.

I don't need amazing airflow, I kind of wanted good airflow where my parts won't overheat and catch fire. The CPU will be on the H115 Pro and the 2070 Super Gigabyte Gaming OC has 3 fans.. I also have enough fans to fill most cases fan slots and do push/pull on the H115 Pro.. So I guess I can force good airflow in a case that doesn't have it stock..
Modern GPU's won't overheat easily. Instead they'll throttle down, or the fans will run at very high speed to keep them below the target temperature. Airflow is still important if you want to avoid that happening.

As an example of why the ability to improve airflow is important, I have a MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z, which has two fans and a massive heatsink. This is housed in a Meshify C. While playing games, the GPU fans were regularly spinning up to 3000 RPM and the max GPU temperature was 76C.

Adding an intake fan to the lower front of the case didn't change the max GPU temperature, but the GPU fans didn't need to spin above 2600 RPM.



Removing the foam filter from the front of the case didn't change the max GPU temperature, but the GPU fans spend much less time @ 2600 RPM.



End result? A much quieter system, even with headphones on.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JMattes View Post
Glad to see the conversation still going, sorry I haven't checked in lately. Heres a few comments to clear things up.

I don't need amazing airflow, I kind of wanted good airflow where my parts won't overheat and catch fire. The CPU will be on the H115 Pro and the 2070 Super Gigabyte Gaming OC has 3 fans.. I also have enough fans to fill most cases fan slots and do push/pull on the H115 Pro.. So I guess I can force good airflow in a case that doesn't have it stock..

1) Meshify C- as nice as it is and as much as I probably would of gotten it despite it being dated.. My GPU won't fit in it or may if I forced it, it's that tight.

2) S2 - not a bad option but it is bigger than what I really wanted and it was towards the higher end of the price range and left a lot of room between the gpu and front rad set up.. too much room really

3) P400A - havent seen a real review on how the front mesh actually helps. The original P400 a was ok but there were some stupid design issues that I don't think they fixed in the A version and at its core its a budget case and build quality wasn't better than H510 at similar price.

4) H510 Elite - Let just not talk about how this is a gimmick case with probably worse airflow than the original version.

5) H510 Standard - This is what I was leaning originally as I like the look and the cable management design. Only started changing my mind after everyone started talking about better airflow cases.. I didn't think my original post read that amazing airflow was a must, but I';d have to go read it again.

I havent bought anything yet as the P400A isn't really available yet, and the H510 just showed up yesterday at my local MC, but not the color i wanted. That I haven't had time and will be travelling all next week. I think I am leaning towards the H510i even at the $120 because I am a sucker for a nice looking side panel with lights even if I can't see it too well based on orientation.

in my P400S the distance from my GPU to the fans on the H115i was <1 inch when I was running push/pull. If your GPU is longer than a MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming and/or you plan on running push/pull you might want to measure before you buy.

Meshify S2 is huge. If you're not planning on possibly having a custom loop I'd probably go for the Meshify C (assuming it's big enough).

I don't really have an opinion on the H510, never worked with one but they are popular.
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I just bought a H510i White and have not built it yet as I am still waiting on other parts. This is my first new build in 10 years, the case does look nice but I had a hard time picking to get a small case but still with good space. I always bought Antec and Fractal cases but i wanted somthing different.

I Did read the older H500 had good airflow if you added two exhaust fans and removed the front intake not the best but not the worst, I am busy trying to find replacement fans for that reason. I really wanted the phanteks evolv x but it was just to big and twice the price but that case did impress me alot as it looks like alot of thought went into that case, I could of bought it for the higher price it was just to big for me.

The other cases i thought about where the

Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - White
PHANTEKS Eclipse P400A Midi-Tower, Tempered Glass, Drgb – White
Phanteks P600S

as you can see i never owned a white case, lol and wanted somthing different as i have had black & gray cases for years.

I bought the BE QUIET Dark Rock Pro 4 to go into this case and its tight i can tell you as i read that the hight is 162.8mm and the H510i can take up to 165mm as this is the 2nd best cooler you can get apart from the noctua which needed new black fans and the colour plastic plates to hid the meatal color which added about 50% to the price and decided not to bother. I was not to ken on water coolers, they do look good in cases but read that they dont last and somtimes leak if your unlucky.

we will se what its like as a 3900x and Vega 56 sapphire is going into this case.
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I have been pointing out you just need a good airflow, not great. Not sure why others doesn't get it.

Anyway, Gamer Nexus also has a review for H200 about negative airflow and with sfx psu that gives better gpu temp. But on my own experience it is not. When playing games 100% gpu load the hot air got stuck somewhere at the front. This makes the TG side panel very hot to touch. Installing 2 front intakes significantly improve the airflow.

I think it's going to be the same for H510 (which is H500 basically).

The intake holes for H series case are really big enough for air to get inside. Comparing to older H series.

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I don't own this case myself. With that said, the reviews say it's one of the best airflow cases if you remove the front fan filter, one of the worst if you leave it in. You can easily replace it with cheap Silverstone filters if you are worried about dust.

I know Meshify gets all the love around here (and for good reason), but Lian Li is a good alternative if you want something different.

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I don't own this case myself. With that said, the reviews say it's one of the best airflow cases if you remove the front fan filter, one of the worst if you leave it in. You can easily replace it with cheap Silverstone filters if you are worried about dust.

I know Meshify gets all the love around here (and for good reason), but Lian Li is a good alternative if you want something different.

it's a good airflow case with a 154mm CPU cooler height limitation. unless OP plans to go with an AIO or a custom loop, it's in a bit of a "racecar with square wheels" situation.

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