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Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 2 - will it make a difference?

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I own a Phanteks EVOLV ATX mid-tower case. Brilliant case. Crap air flow.
2x Front intake fans - 140mm
1x Rear fan 140mm
2x fans in push on Corsair H115 2x 140mm in roof/top.
All fans noctua AF15s with 1500rpm max.


I knew when buying the Evolv ATX that it had poor airflow, still could not resist.


Putting my hand inside the case when its running, its hot. Even on a cold day, the air going into the case is not cool at all.


I am thinking of getting the Phanteks Enthoo Luxe 2 case. Lots of fans = good air flow - usually.
I think I just need a bigger case, my room temp is usually 20-23c most of the time.
Please note, never had a problem in my previous PC, TJ07 with an army of 120mm fans, it had 8 or 9 singing in unison at low RPMs.



Anyone migrated from Evolv to another case? What temps drops did you see?


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air going into the case isn't cool but you're in a cool room?



it's a case with a 90%+ solid front panel with tiny vents around the edge. I'd imagine it's better than the Lux but I can't see how it'd be anywhere in the neighborhood of good.

If cooling performance is what you're after and you have a Phanteks preference you should be looking at the P400A with the new mesh front (P400/P400S are terrible airflow cases, I ditched mine earlier this year) or the P600.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
air going into the case isn't cool but you're in a cool room?

it's a case with a 90%+ solid front panel with tiny vents around the edge. I'd imagine it's better than the Lux but I can't see how it'd be anywhere in the neighborhood of good.

If cooling performance is what you're after and you have a Phanteks preference you should be looking at the P400A with the new mesh front (P400/P400S are terrible airflow cases, I ditched mine earlier this year) or the P600.

Hey Pook. P400A is a mid-tower case. Want a full tower, feel I need a case which can do the AIO cooling for now and full on custom double or triple rad WCing in the future or just go fan crazy. I looked at the Corsair/Cooler Master cases, did not find anything I liked. At the moment, cannot find anything as well made as the Luxe 2 under £200.
Air vents are much larger, case is actually bigger, a lot of fan mounts for 140mm, zero modding needed for fill and drain ports.
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the entire top and bottom of the P400 is mesh it still is one the worst cases for thermals. Vents on a portion of an otherwise solid front panel with dense mesh (and usually another foam dust filter behind that) don't flow well.

Gamers Nexus has a fairly competent case "benchmark" and any case with a solid or mostly solid front panel does poorly unless it has some other way to intake air (like the PC-011).

If you want full something bigger than a mid tower you could look into the Fractal Design Define/Meshify S2 or the Lian Li PC-011. The Define/Meshify S2 is sold as a mid tower case but I could probably put my P400S inside my S2 if I took the power supply shroud off.

You can likely get decent thermals with just about any case with enough radiators and high RPM fans, if you just want a case that looks good then go for whatever you want.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
the entire top and bottom of the P400 is mesh it still is one the worst cases for thermals. Vents on a portion of an otherwise solid front panel with dense mesh (and usually another foam dust filter behind that) don't flow well.

Gamers Nexus has a fairly competent case "benchmark" and any case with a solid or mostly solid front panel does poorly unless it has some other way to intake air (like the PC-011).

If you want full something bigger than a mid tower you could look into the Fractal Design Define/Meshify S2 or the Lian Li PC-011. The Define/Meshify S2 is sold as a mid tower case but I could probably put my P400S inside my S2 if I took the power supply shroud off.

You can likely get decent thermals with just about any case with enough radiators and high RPM fans, if you just want a case that looks good then go for whatever you want.

I looked into the P400 and the entire Fractual range, all of these cases have the same issue. Not enough on offer.
Case needs to be able to handle a simple build with AIO to start with then transition to being able to deploy and 2x or 3x rad deployment, still keep all my HDDs/SSDs and expand storage as required or increase fan count.
Only the Corsair 1000D ticks all the boxes but is simply not worth the money with the Luxe2 is available, half the price and offers enough. Luxe2 it is.
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
the entire top and bottom of the P400 is mesh it still is one the worst cases for thermals. Vents on a portion of an otherwise solid front panel with dense mesh (and usually another foam dust filter behind that) don't flow well.

Gamers Nexus has a fairly competent case "benchmark" and any case with a solid or mostly solid front panel does poorly unless it has some other way to intake air (like the PC-011).

If you want full something bigger than a mid tower you could look into the Fractal Design Define/Meshify S2 or the Lian Li PC-011. The Define/Meshify S2 is sold as a mid tower case but I could probably put my P400S inside my S2 if I took the power supply shroud off.

You can likely get decent thermals with just about any case with enough radiators and high RPM fans, if you just want a case that looks good then go for whatever you want.
Gamer's Nexus actually did a review on the P400A mesh front panel and found significantly better results with a small variation between it and other cases in its class:

Actually beating the 011 dynamic.

I think it's dependent on the fan configuration. I did see that review by science studios:


that puts it in a less favorable light, but I have anecdotal experience (I just went from an h440 to a p400a) and I can say without a doubt that airflow is much improved with the same amount of fans.

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Gamer's Nexus actually did a review on the P400A mesh front panel and found significantly better results with a small variation between it and other cases in its class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXQQZtD_SI&t=835s

Actually beating the 011 dynamic.

I think it's dependent on the fan configuration. I did see that review by science studios:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6rzR2ZQ3cc

that puts it in a less favorable light, but I have anecdotal experience (I just went from an h440 to a p400a) and I can say without a doubt that airflow is much improved with the same amount of fans.

yep.

Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
If cooling performance is what you're after and you have a Phanteks preference you should be looking at the P400A with the new mesh front (P400/P400S are terrible airflow cases, I ditched mine earlier this year) or the P600.

apparently P400A is too small for OP.

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You're in push on top rad what is that exhaust or intake ?
I'd do intake on any rad personally.

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I'd do intake on any rad personally.
I concur, if the CPU is too hot, you should do intake for the rad at the front and see if that improves things. You might have positive air pressure though which means more dust. Also, look into getting better fans too, you'd be surprised at the difference that'd make.

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You should definitely be able to achieve better temps in the Luxe 2 over the Evolv ATX. The front and top are still restricted with the solid panels, but the bottom and side offer filtered, relatively unrestricted flow. The only problem being that all of the possible 3.5" drive locations impede these fan locations. That said, if you use the 4x3.5" HDD mount on the bottom, you only give up one of these fan locations which leaves 6 of the less restricted fan options.

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