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Solid pc case without window

Hello everyone,

I would like to know from you what case for my future little beast you can recommend.

Case amount: 150$ (max. 200$ - I don’t want to exceed this budget assumed by me).

Case requirements:
- necessarily without a window - I prefer a subdued, simple look, I haven’t shot into the current trend of RGB and windows, and unfortunately there are a majority of such casings,
- anti-dust filters with easy or at least fairly easy disassembly,
- good ventilation [edit: 2x140 / 2x120 top and 2x140 / 2x120 front minimum] (I plan to buy fans separately and don’t include them in the case budget, so it will be less important if they are efficient),
- quite durable, thick plates (thank you cardboard),
- the case must be roomy (among other things, the CPU Noctua NH-D15 cooling must enter).

Optional: 5.25 bay (I won’t be forced to buy an external drive - sporadically, but sometimes I use it).

If it turns out that the requirements aren’t possible because the amount allocated to the case is too small, please comment.
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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-16-2020, 09:26 AM
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Phanteks P600S , but forget that 5,25 drive , its 2020 afterall.
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Is there besides the looks
(there are strong tinted thick glas-sidepannel cases too, doesn't have to be fully visible)
any specific reason you are against side pannels ?

Except the Fractal Design Define lineup, i can't think of good airflow ones too
Phanteks Evolv series has 10/10 build quality and there are couple of other well made cases with strong tinted sidepannels
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Fractal Design provides a Meshify C version with a solid side panel instead of a window. It's compact but still has enough clearance to fit almost anything. The airflow is amazing especially if you remove the foam filter on the front panel. It's usually $85 in the US
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Thank you for the first reply. I read a lot about the Fractal Define (and meshify) series, once about Phanteks cases. I was willing to buy Fractal R6, but... the only thing that scares me off the R6 is when we dismantle the front body covering the 5.25 bay, we prevent the installation of the internal drive (from what I read). On the other hand, when I leave this panel, I will probably lose some of the fan's efficiency. It's true?
R6 has great thing - the option of opening the front (good option especially on hot days), this case has a lot of anti-dust filters + case looks solid.

Phanteks P600S is with glass... I saw on manufacturer's website version with closed panel, but i can't buy this ver. with polish shops (and still don't see in foreign stores). 5.25 bay is old, but sometimes i have to use it - but I know I can buy an external drive (and i'll do it when it'll be necessary).

Fractal R6 or Phanteks p600S - which has better ventilation? If u have more/other cases to recommend, please reply.


//EDIT: Meshify S2 isn't better than C? As far as I know, meshify C won't fit larger GPUs.

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Is there besides the looks
(there are strong tinted thick glas-sidepannel cases too, doesn't have to be fully visible)
any specific reason you are against side pannels ?
I don't speek for the OP but side windows are very tacky and untasteful

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Quote: Originally Posted by Veii View Post
Is there besides the looks
(there are strong tinted thick glas-sidepannel cases too, doesn't have to be fully visible)
any specific reason you are against side pannels ?

Why not the glass side:
1) heat dissipation from glass is worse than from metal
2) increased chance of panel damage
3) the plastic panel is prone to scratches
4) I totally agree with @dan86 - "side windows are very tacky and untasteful"
5) I don't like glowing elements like a Christmas tree
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Since you mentioned a D15 and therefore we're strictly in the air cooling category, where exhaust is as important as intake.

- For mini ITX or micro ATX:
My recommendation to anyone wanting a combination of 'decent', 'reasonable', no setbacks and affordable:

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog...ni-tower/n200/
(no window, side vent instead; normal people[tm] approved)

For better build quality, improved CPU cooling performance but decreased GPU cooling and a higher pricing (but still worth every penny):

https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=303
(no window)

- For ATX or eATX it gets tricky..
Combining best cooling performance, without sacrificing much/anything in other areas and without windows (which btw makes for a rather short list):

https://www.silverstonetek.com/produ...id=397&area=en
(non windowed version exists, looks however are.. well.. subject to personal interpretation)

Same performance, but cheaper:

https://www.silverstonetek.com/raven...&area=en&top=S
(non windowed version also available)
((i'm not mentioning the original Raven because it has GPU length limitations that may come back to bite you in the behind; unfortunately, as it would have been at the top otherwise))

This is an odd one, but.. hey, it's overclock.net! If you need a looot of space for drives, removables, bays, etc. and don't mind: i) getting your hands dirty with some modding (namely making it inversed and re-riveting/re-cabling internals so you can have one more fan for your CPU cooler) and ii) its looks, this can really surprise you.. did the alterations for a family member and if it weren't for how it looks, i'd have bought one for myself. Catch is, they're hard to come by, been EOLed for years now. Also sturdy as hell:

http://us.coolermaster.com/product/D.../cosmos-2.html
(non windowed, multiple side vents, better GPU cooling and again, for air cooling)

Not surprisingly, they're all older models, but still available. Lastly since they've both been mentioned, i wouldn't even consider Fractal or Phanteks, especially for air cooling, money for nothing. They have limited intake (for different reasons) and Fractal cases specifically are meant for the kind of people thinking IKEA=quality. Because "for the masses" rings kinda bad to their ears.
Will edit to add more as/when it comes to mind, been a while

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Quote: Originally Posted by throw007 View Post
Why not the glass side:
1) heat dissipation from glass is worse than from metal
2) increased chance of panel damage
3) the plastic panel is prone to scratches
4) I totally agree with @dan86 - "side windows are very tacky and untasteful"
5) I don't like glowing elements like a Christmas tree
Another thing you may try is if you find a case that you like with decent airflow and looks that appeal to you, you could contact the manufacturer and see if the side panels are interchangeable. If so you could always see what a solid side panel would cost you from the manufacturer, can't imagine they'd be too pricey for just a replacement part which they likely have on hand for warranty/shipping damages. Other than that I don't have too much to add as Fractal, Phanteks, Silverstone and sometimes pricier In Win chassis (C200 as example) are expensive and not within everyone's budget/styling. Just my worthless 2 cents on the matter

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