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post #6501 of 6503 (permalink) Old 09-06-2019, 02:18 PM
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TJ11 newbee question

Hi guys,

I am in a continuing process of doing my first build in a TJ11 case. Great case, love the air flow, design, space. But I have a newbee question, which if any one could help me with would be greatly appreciated. I have never built a pc before.

I have my main system built, thats all great, super quiet and low temps etc. Now I want to install all of my library and back up drives in the bottom of the case but I want to isolate them. To not have them powered on when I don't need them, as I only run secondary back ups once per week and don't often need things from my library. Also I like the extra protection from ransom wear etc of having them powered off most of the time.

My question is can I just run my "occasional use" hard drives in the bottom of the case from a second power supply ie I will just buy and install a second power supply that is only used to power my "occasional use" hard drives ? I would get one with an external switch so I could just flick it to on before powering on the computer. I would also leave all of the drives permanently plugged into my raid controller card. I know there are other ways of doing it, small power switcher units that fit in the 5.25" bays but I don't trust them, I don't want any electronics between my power supply and raid card if I can avoid it.

One other question while I am here. Has any one used the Silverstone AP183 PWM fans ? While the original 3 pin 180s are fine I ponder on running, controling one 180mm PWM AP183 fan from the GPU and one from my CPU, the ones that sit under each of them. Is there any real benefit or is it so negligible its just not worth it.

In time I will post some pictures here however my build does not compare to any of the masterpieces on here. Mine has beige Noctua fans, no watercooling insight and is a mish mash of bits.

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AP183 fan
My advice? If you're keeping this case, buy as many 183s as you need, but don't use them just yet, keep them for a replacement. Buy and not use you'd ask?

- They have a slight performance improvement, but unless you run them relatively high i frankly doubt you're going to notice it (it being why you need not rush replacing them)
- What's always a worry with components that are pretty much brand-exclusive is longevity; what if for whatever reason silverstone discontinues the entire 180mm line? What will you do? Run 140s? What, two of them? There are $60 cases out there that have better airflow potential.. all of a sudden, your chassis isn't really where it was anymore. So given that the cost is small, i'd buy and hoard, because as always in life, you never know

Regardless, you're ---strongly--- recommended NOT to run them from any 'normal' fan header, they draw too much power. Control them from whatever you like, but take care in where/how you're powering them; not a coincidence Silverstone ships them as they do, you can literally fry normal fan headers with them. If your level of knowledge is such that this sounds complicated to you, read and learn (air cooling section here), or stick to using them as they expect you to.

Now as to hard drives; newer hard drives are very quiet and have firmware commands you can run that further improves on that (idle spin to name one among many other noise-related functions). Though most have them activated by default anyway, so nothing a user needs to do (a note here that these come with a slight performance degradation). Also, most hard drives, new or old, are just fine running as is -read: without active cooling- so you shouldn't have to worry about temps either unless you run tasks that, by your description.. you don't. So all good on that front too.
What you only want to ensure is that they're protected from vibrations (dampening, special pads, etc).

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You could put a hot-wired PSU in the second PSU slot and flip it on whenever you need the drives.

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