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post #21 of 68 (permalink) Old 04-13-2018, 04:13 AM
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Option "Receive a monthly newsletter from Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community" was unchecked yet I still received the spam email.


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GDPR, So much fun that has been for me also
Yeah, I know what you mean. A number of my marketing associates on this side of the pond have been pulling the hair out of their heads because their companies do business in Europe as well.

Is OCN working on adding an optout path as well?

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Yeah, I know what you mean. A number of my marketing associates on this side of the pond have been pulling the hair out of their heads because their companies do business in Europe as well.

Is OCN working on adding an optout path as well?
I am semi discussing this with VS but in all honesty it is up to VS and their legal team.


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I received this week's e-mail too.

Interestingly enough, they spent time on changing some of the e-mails' text colours instead of honouring the opt-outs.


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I received this week's e-mail too.

Interestingly enough, they spent time on changing some of the e-mails' text colours instead of honouring the opt-outs.
You have to remember there are different teams for different tasks Those sorting out the Opt out issues are not going to necessarily be the ones making visual adjustments. They will move forward with as many aspects they can rather than putting everything on hold for one element. Just sensible workflow. At the moment we are tracking down an existing list of those who were already set as Opt Out so we can honor those prior user decisions.


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You have to remember there are different teams for different tasks Those sorting out the Opt out issues are not going to necessarily be the ones making visual adjustments. They will move forward with as many aspects they can rather than putting everything on hold for one element. Just sensible workflow. At the moment we are tracking down an existing list of those who were already set as Opt Out so we can honor those prior user decisions.

When the system isn't working properly, the due course of action for VS should have been to turn it off until things were sorted out. They could have spent all the time reformatting the look of the newsletter with the newsletter system off-line.

Please understand that, at this point in time, taking into consideration what has happened with other forum systems, history has unfortunately been repeating itself for the past three months; this type of approach should have been corrected by now.

Me and others have enough spam already. On the other hand, people who hadn't yet received a weekly newsletter that they didn't even know existed (the prior system was monthly), could perfectly well wait a few more weeks - because again, they didn't even know that this system was in place, because there was no formal announcement and no on / off toggle, which is also important, because even those who had opted to receive a monthly newsletter before may not want a weekly one.

To sum it up, this matter was approached in the wrong way.

This is how it should have been handled when the problem was noted:

1.Turn off the newsletter system;
2a. Honour the existing opt-outs and implement the system that will allow people to turn it off, i.e., assign the existing monthly newsletter option to this weekly one, since that is what we will now have instead and correspondingly change the checkbox text;
2b. Simultaneously (or not) make the cosmetic changes to the newsletter;
3. Formally announce these changes to the community, and give people a few days head start so that they can uncheck the option to receive weekly newsletters beforehand if they so desire;
4. Turn on the newsletter system.



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Quote: Originally Posted by tpi2007 View Post
When the system isn't working properly, the due course of action for VS should have been to turn it off until things were sorted out. They could have spent all the time reformatting the look of the newsletter with the newsletter system off-line.

Please understand that, at this point in time, taking into consideration what has happened with other forum systems, history has unfortunately been repeating itself for the past three months; this type of approach should have been corrected by now.

Me and others have enough spam already. On the other hand, people who hadn't yet received a weekly newsletter that they didn't even know existed (the prior system was monthly), could perfectly well wait a few more weeks - because again, they didn't even know that this system was in place, because there was no formal announcement and no on / off toggle, which is also important, because even those who had opted to receive a monthly newsletter before may not want a weekly one.

To sum it up, this matter was approached in the wrong way.

This is how it should have been handled when the problem was noted:

1.Turn off the newsletter system;
2a. Honour the existing opt-outs and implement the system that will allow people to turn it off, i.e., assign the existing monthly newsletter option to this weekly one, since that is what we will now have instead and correspondingly change the checkbox text;
2b. Simultaneously (or not) make the cosmetic changes to the newsletter;
3. Formally announce these changes to the community, and give people a few days head start so that they can uncheck the option to receive weekly newsletters beforehand if they so desire;
4. Turn on the newsletter system.
I disagree with the option to opt out. It should be an option to opt in.

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When the system isn't working properly, the due course of action for VS should have been to turn it off until things were sorted out. They could have spent all the time reformatting the look of the newsletter with the newsletter system off-line.

Please understand that, at this point in time, taking into consideration what has happened with other forum systems, history has unfortunately been repeating itself for the past three months; this type of approach should have been corrected by now.

Me and others have enough spam already. On the other hand, people who hadn't yet received a weekly newsletter that they didn't even know existed (the prior system was monthly), could perfectly well wait a few more weeks - because again, they didn't even know that this system was in place, because there was no formal announcement and no on / off toggle, which is also important, because even those who had opted to receive a monthly newsletter before may not want a weekly one.

To sum it up, this matter was approached in the wrong way.

This is how it should have been handled when the problem was noted:

1.Turn off the newsletter system;
2a. Honour the existing opt-outs and implement the system that will allow people to turn it off, i.e., assign the existing monthly newsletter option to this weekly one, since that is what we will now have instead and correspondingly change the checkbox text;
2b. Simultaneously (or not) make the cosmetic changes to the newsletter;
3. Formally announce these changes to the community, and give people a few days head start so that they can uncheck the option to receive weekly newsletters beforehand if they so desire;
4. Turn on the newsletter system.
I agree fully that is how it should have been handled.

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I disagree with the option to opt out. It should be an option to opt in.
It will always be opt out, this is generally an industry standard unless the law in certain countries dictates otherwise.


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...It will always be opt out, this is generally an industry standard unless the law in certain countries dictates otherwise.
I don't give the north end of a south bound furry little rodent if it is generally an industry standard. Just because something has been done a certain way for however long doesn't always make it right. These are our computers and, as owners, we should be making the first decision on what will be put on or sent to them, not someone taking upon themselves to just send it anyway and we have to tell them not to do so.

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