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Whats a good true surround sound headphone for gaming?

I have the G933 and G633, I don't believe they are true surround sound. I've been playing this game called Tarkov lately and it's very competitive so I'm thinking of using this holiday deals to snatch some new headphones. The problem I have now is, its hard to tell sounds coming from above or below. I believe a true 7.1 headphone will fix that. I don't have a budget atm, I'm just gonna put the recommended headphones on the list and see which one goes on sale the most.

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did I miss true surround head phones becoming a thing?

only thing I could imagine are multiple speakers inside each cup? o.o!

as far as i'm aware, aside from a few turtle beach models(?) 99.99% of headphone surround sound is fake, modulated audio.

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Good stereo headphones will provide MUCH better imaging then multi-driver headphones.

That's just like an end of story fact at the moment. Things could change in the future.

At 100 dollars look at the Sennheiser 5xx series.

At 200 look at something like AD700s, Massdrop HD6xx, Phillips Fidelio X2s etc

At 300 you are entering the land of dacs, amps and high end headphones / planar magnetics.

Just use the games default settings for headphones and buy a stereo pair. Imaging will be much better. Check out the youtube clip where they simulate a hair cut. You can hear the imaging on something as cheap as a pair of Apple ear buds.

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7.1? As in 3 speakers on each side + a center? You will never find such a thing in a headphone as there is no way to do a center speaker. Same goes for 5.1 - it's gonna be hugely awkward to hang a speaker directly in front of the user's face.

Best you will find is a high end headphone from one of the major manufacturers.

I play lots of FPS games where positional audio is hugely important and for that I'd recommend the Sennheiser HD 650. Or the HD 600 if you can find it cheaper. These two models will beat a gaming headset every time and in any real test. They're really quite excellent.

And I just used my pair of 650's to know which direction mutants were dropping in from on Metro 2033 no more than 5 minutes ago. Gave me the edge as I knew where to be aiming before they appeared on screen.

Edit: The Sennheiser HD 599's are on sale for $99 right now for cyber monday. Personally I'd jump on those if I were you. https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD...5323116&sr=8-1

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i mean, the center could like vibrate the top of your skull or something? just add the .1 to the head strap (I've said too much, this will totally exist soon now)

either way - I prefer my open cans for gaming. Much better positioning over any headset, or closed ear I've used.

as stated, MD's totally 100% identical Sennie's, or sennie's sennies. Can't remember the other company's open ear I have atm. feel like its KV 7xx or something (totally 100% identical MD version that broke within a week and required lots of soldering and total wire replacement to fix for good, )

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Yes I will be getting a DAC&AMP combo as well. You guys know if the Astro series is any good?

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Astros are garbage but they are durable.

Seriously though just pick up some open Senn's for less then 100 bucks today. You really can't beat that on the cheap.

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i mean, the center could like vibrate the top of your skull or something? just add the .1 to the head strap (I've said too much, this will totally exist soon now)

either way - I prefer my open cans for gaming. Much better positioning over any headset, or closed ear I've used.

as stated, MD's totally 100% identical Sennie's, or sennie's sennies. Can't remember the other company's open ear I have atm. feel like its KV 7xx or something (totally 100% identical MD version that broke within a week and required lots of soldering and total wire replacement to fix for good, )
Center and sub are actually pretty easy to implement compared to surround channels. Just split center and sub and send to both ears.
How do you make a speaker inside a headphone on your ear create a sound that appears to be coming from behind or from the sides without any software?
With a set of actual 7.1 surround speakers each ear hears sound coming from all 8 speakers, while if you split 7.1 to 5 speakers (front, side, rear, center, sub) per ear, your ears won't hear the sound of the opposite front, side and rear speakers like they do with real 7.1 setup.
For positional sound (in movies) you need to have either actual speakers in the room or software emulated 7.1 HRTF sound with proper delays, reverb, etc. in a good pair of 2.0 headphones(you only have 2 ears anyway). No need for more than 2.0 in headphones, because while in a room with 7.1 speakers you can rotate your ear to change your position relative to sound sources, headphones are always on your head and only need to receive the final mix of sounds with all delays and other stuff already included into sound output.
In video games it's much more preferable to have per-object HRTF sound anyway, so no need to have 7.1 emulation.

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If its purely for gaming then the ATH-AD700X is an amazing option (Pair it with a decent AMP/DAC) and you are good to go.

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easy, cans on a classic dirt bike helmet, except the shell is hollow

the audiophalic types will love it !

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