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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 01:29 AM - Thread Starter
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Help fine tuning my ram plz

I have been doing a bit of overclocking and I've hit a brick wall getting the ram to move.
Maximus X Hero
8700k @ 5.2
Ram is @ 4000MHz 16-16-16-37 and the system is stable although my voltages might be a little high.
I had a bit of a look for a tutorial but couldn't find the info I wanted so thought I would be better off asking for help.
The secondary and tertiary timings have me a bit confused tbh.
All help will be greatly appreciated
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 03:20 AM
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Lower everything as much as possible, raise tREFI as high as possible, don't touch RTL and IO Latency until you're done with other timings. Check Actually Hardcore Overclocking youtube channel for some more info, but basically it's about what I wrote.

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post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 04:38 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
Lower everything as much as possible, raise tREFI as high as possible, don't touch RTL and IO Latency until you're done with other timings. Check Actually Hardcore Overclocking youtube channel for some more info, but basically it's about what I wrote.
Cheers mate. This is just the kind of info I need

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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-20-2019, 07:08 PM - Thread Starter
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Was wondering what results others are getting with HyperX Predator 16GB 4000MHz DDR4 CL19 DIMM (Kit of 2) HX440C19PB3K2/16 also and how they went about it.
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post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 03:11 AM
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It's a Samsung B-Die based kit, you're best off looking at other B-Die based kits.

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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 11:15 AM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by BroadPwns View Post
It's a Samsung B-Die based kit, you're best off looking at other B-Die based kits.
I think you might be right. I have a similar size set of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200 (also B-Die 2x8GB) that will run at 4200 with less volts but it gets a bit hot and my waterblock won't fit because the PCB's are taller. I might make some custom cooling plates up at work and see what they can do. It's a pity I sold 2 sticks because I had 32GB (4x8) which ran faster clock speed with the T-topography. i'm pretty sure they benchmarked way better.
Any suggestions on what ram would be a good buy?
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post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 03:42 PM
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Looks like you are already at a very good speed
You could check with cerealkeller to see what sub timings he used to get copy up near 60k
https://www.overclock.net/forum/1805...-gaming-4.html
But looking over your secondary timings I would think that you could tighten some of them a fair bit you may even be able to halve tFAW.
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post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2019, 05:01 AM - Thread Starter
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I had a quick look at that thread. Very impressive. I might have to pick cerealkeller's brains later
I ended up updating the bios and started my overclock again from scratch starting with the 5.2GHz on the cpu and I dropped the ram frequency and lowered the timings from 4000MHz @ 16-16-16-37 to 3866MHz @ 15-15-15-35 which worked out better and more stable than the previous settings.
3866/15=257.73
4000/16=250
Not a magic kit but I guess I can live with it
I tidied up tFAW a bit too with 4x tRRD
If I can get the scores up a little on AIDA64 I think I will leave it alone after that
Scores look a little lower on AIDA than it did at 4000MHz
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Battle PC
(15 items)
CPU
8700k @ 5.2ghZ
Motherboard
Maximus X Hero
GPU
EVGA 1080 Ti Superclock 2 Black
RAM
Kingston Predator KHX4000C19D4/8GX 4000MHz @ 16-16-16-37-2
Hard Drive
Sansung M.2 1TB 970 EVO
Power Supply
Corsair HX1200i
Cooling
EK 140D5 Pump, waterblocked CPU, Ram, GPU with 2x 360mm Radiators and Vardar Fans
Case
ThermalTake V51
Operating System
Windows 10 Lite
Monitor
Dell Computer DELL U3415W 34.1 inches 3440 x 1440 pixels @ 48-85 Hz
Keyboard
Corsair K95 RGB Platinum
Mouse
Asus Spatha Wireless Gaming
Mouse
Ligitech G602 wireless
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Steelseries Siberia800 wireless Headset
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Bandwidth will drop with lower frequency and your latency is within margin of error for AIDA64.
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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-22-2019, 03:09 PM
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Here is the settings I have been using with 6700k and 3200c14
8700K can typically handle higher speeds and tighter timings.
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