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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 03:11 AM - Thread Starter
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32gb or 16gb of faster ram

I use my pc for gaming. I run 2 monitors and sometimes will have several browsers open and possibly a movie playing while I game. Looking at memory for a new build and my budget will allow me to buy either 32gb of 3200 ddr4 or 16gb of 4000 ram. Would appreciate some advice.

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-10-2019, 03:36 AM
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My Vote goes for 32gb since more is better and i dont know of any advantage using 4000MHz ddr.
May depend on the CPU and often the Latencys are more importent that higher clocks.

Also maybe 16GB 3200GHz C14 would ba a good middleground and you can safe some money for movies&games

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32GB for sure.

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-11-2019, 05:29 AM
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Question for the original poster... Do you actually need 32gb? if you have 16gb now, are you getting close to filling it?

Something to consider is if you are not above 12gb used (which I am guessing you arent) is turning off the page file system if using Windows. You will use a little more RAM, but a nice boost to response times on secondary programs.

I had 32gb of ram from 2010 to 2016. Then went back down to 16gb for a new build. I could only get above 16gb used when I wrote software that used heavy amounts of ram. I would game and have multiple VMs open and still rarely exceeded 16gb. I would hate for you to waste your money if you really are not going to get anything out of it.

Something to consider is going for something in the middle like 3600 at a low cas timing if you are not planning on overclocking the ram. GSkill offers a few nice sets in this range (cas15-15-15-35). Corsair has many, but the default timing seems like well...garbage past the first value. (16-18-18-36? really going to advertise it as cas16 corsair? )
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If you don't get close to using up 16gb ram you won't see a benefit from going up to 32gb. In fact, you will see a (very) small performance hit if the 32gb ram timings or frequency is lower

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Quote: Originally Posted by Elusiv View Post
I use my pc for gaming. I run 2 monitors and sometimes will have several browsers open and possibly a movie playing while I game. Looking at memory for a new build and my budget will allow me to buy either 32gb of 3200 ddr4 or 16gb of 4000 ram. Would appreciate some advice.
If you're gonna overclock your RAM depends on the motherboard. Gigabyte and Asus on their boards uses T-Topology, so 4x8GB performs better. Asrock Z390 boards for example don't use T-Topology, so 2x8GB or even dual rank 2x16GB performs better even in four DIMM boards.
2x8GB and 4x8GB are single rank though and will overclock better than 2x16GB or 4x16GB double rank DIMMs. And if you get b-die memory like 4x8GB G.Skill 3200 CL14 or 3600 CL16 it'll overclock quite well.

My G.Skill 4x8GB CL16 3600 I've had GSAT stable at 4200MHz 17-18-18-39 2T and run it 24/7 at 4133Mhz 17-17-17-38 2T. It performs a bit better at 4133 with tighter timings in benches like Cinebench R20 and 3DMark Time Spy.

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Games on there own wont use over 16GB at this stage but if you leave enough crap open in the background your games will become a stuttering mess if you go far enough over.

3200c14 XMP overclocked to 4000c17 with tweaked subs improved my CPU performance in game by around 7%which when combined with the CPU OC adds up to a decent amount.
But if you were to just run 4000c17 without tweaked subs it would probably be about 5% difference or 4000c19 maybe just 2%.
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I ended up buying 32gb (2x16) TridentZ RGB c16. I planned on using a Gigabyte x570 Ultra.

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I ended up buying 32gb (2x16) TridentZ RGB c16. I planned on using a Gigabyte x570 Ultra.
Well, that was a waste. Should have gone with a 16GB kit and use the extra cash to get a tier higher GPU.
No way in heck 2 movies, a few browser tabs, and a game will chew up 32GB.

I usually have Rust, Livestream, a couple of chrome tabs with multiple extensions, Discord, etc running and I'm nowhere near close to 16GB.
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