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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-09-2019, 04:14 AM - Thread Starter
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could buy a used Z170 board for cheap and BCLK OC your i3 6100 if you need more CPU oomph though

probably less hassle to just grab a used CPU at that point though, there are ES Skylake i7 6400Ts and ES Skylake 6700Ks on eBay for ~$90.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-ES-i7...QAAOSwB09YIUBz

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-....c100005.m1851
An ES chip would be a good deal if I can overclock to the normal 4.0 clock without it heating up so much, I have an aftermarket cooler but it's not too much better than stock.

The real issue is overclocking it on my board. I read something about Z290s not overclocking and ES models not always working on Asus

This is the board I have, let me know?
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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-09-2019, 05:43 AM
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Well you could put ddr4 in it so not all that useless of a suggestion just attempting to use xmp profile is overclocking
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...pecifications/

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16gb kits aren't that expensive 2x8gh
32gb kits get up there a little 4x8gb or 2x16gb but not all that bad
But ddr4 at the least can be transferred to other systems even amd more easily than ddr3.

Probably find a good buy in ocn market place too memory is a tough sell.

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Well you could put ddr4 in it so not all that useless of a suggestion just attempting to use xmp profile is overclocking
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...pecifications/



16gb kits aren't that expensive 2x8gh
32gb kits get up there a little 4x8gb or 2x16gb but not all that bad
But ddr4 at the least can be transferred to other systems even amd more easily than ddr3.

Probably find a good buy in ocn market place too memory is a tough sell.
I have an open post on the market for Ram.. we will see

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All the speeds you listed are probably running Hynix chips and can probably all OC to the same speed as each other.

They all have a similar latency at there rated speed.
Using this rough calculation they look the same but depending on sub timings they will be different and the 3600 kit may have the edge.
3000\15=200
3200\16=200
3600\18=200
The last kit will also have a little more bandwidth but that alone may not be enough to justify the price increase.

If you are willing to OC this $75 kit using micron chips should hit 3600+ with tighter timings than the kits using Hynix chips
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Spo...gateway&sr=8-1

If the G.Skill rep pops in do you have any kits using Micron E-die priced around $75?
A few questions:

1. So the higher the value of (speed/latency), the higher the performance?
2. Does it also imply that 3000 at 15 will perform the same as 3600 at 18, since their (speed/latency) is the same?
3. Is (speed/latency) the best measure of evaluating memory performance? Or are there other factors that I should account for?

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Yes so 3200c14 =228 which is faster but that calculation is just a very rough guideline.

Higher frequency will bring more bandwidth which is of some benefit especially with higher core counts fighting over the same bandwidth.
But latency is a balance of timings and frequency and is probably the most important for software that is not fully multithreaded.

With AMD higher frequency also brings down the latency of inter core communication.
Some good info on RAM speed with AMD in a recent gamers nexus test

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