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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-19-2019, 05:24 PM - Thread Starter
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Why is it impossible to find ram for a B450 motherboard

So I want to build a cheap PC for a family member. I'm interested in buying the MSI B450I-GAMING-PLUS-AC with a AMD 2200G. If I check the QVL memory list with what they got with newegg nothing ever matches. Why is it so difficult to find ram that is compatible wit the board. I checked one of the Ryzen ram threads here but nothing match again. I just want to get 2x4GB like around 3000MHz.

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The QVL lists are just what the manufacturer has tested with that board. It's not the only stuff that will work...


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RAM has a QVL too with what boards it has been tested on. Generally the RAM's QVL is more thorough than the mobo's.

Search for DDR4 kits on PCPartPicker and just Google the kits it finds and check the RAM's QVL for your mobo.

FWIW though I've never referenced a QVL before a RAM purchase and have never had an issue.

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The part numbers listed on most QVL's aren't interchangeable with retail part numbers, that may be why you're having a hard time. Either way just grab Samsung B-die and call it a day. It'll work

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Any DDR4 will work. Stop bothering with QVLs.

Samsung B die as far as I know has been discontinued and is not sold anymore. Or was there so huge overstock that it lasts until today?
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Ballistix Sport LT 3200MHz CL16 worked with just one click to enable XMP with a Ryzen 2700 and B450 Tomahawk.
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Use any kit listed here and XMP profile can automatically configure settings for you:

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Ryzen used to be extremely finicky with RAM. Not so anymore. Pretty much any DDR4 will work just fine. QVL is just a list of tested RAM that worked.
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Any DDR4 will work. Stop bothering with QVLs.

Samsung B die as far as I know has been discontinued and is not sold anymore. Or was there so huge overstock that it lasts until today?
^ like many mentioned , it will work anything under 3200 will always work - 2nd gen with 2nd gen board up to 3600 nearly always via XMP
MSI boards have "Memory Try it!"
A huge list of different memory timings, so you can freely buy even 4000+ kits and just use a preset that will boot up
The difference between the presets is huge, soo it either boots up and works or won't boot up at all

At least Europe has a huge oversuply so far, b-dies in the 110eur range
But this is likely just the last one
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Ontop of that, MSI B series boards do OC memory quite well, rly nothing to worry about
Grab the cheapest high speed kit or known b-dies and call it a day / best bang for buck, whatever you select~

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Mostly agreeing with above, any cheap RAM ~3000 - 3200 should work fine. Disagreeing with the rest, B-Die costs twice as much and for lower spec machines it just isn't worth the marginal bump in performance from my perspective. Also, do they even have 4GB B-Die sticks?

You can find 2x4GB for ~$40-$50 and 2x8GB sticks for ~$60-$70. Even thought it is probably overkill for the 2200G, RAM is insanely cheap right now, so it might be worth a few extra bucks for 16GB. I have 3000 Cl 16 RAM with my 2400G and I'm pretty happy with it. I bought the RAM last summer, so I paid twice as much, but I knew that going in and got everything else on a deal. Seeing other people with machines costing 10x as much getting similar or worse frame rate playing 7 Days To Die is very amusing!

Since you are making it for a family member (assuming not a gamer) then the 2200G with cheap RAM and B450 mobo should handle basic daily tasks like a champ for a great price.

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