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Which has the best chance of higher performance??

Corsair B die 3200mhz 14-14-14-35 kit vs Corsair 3600mhz 16-18-18-36 b die kit?

Links to both in question.
CMW16GX4M2C3200C14
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Catego...6GX4M2C3200C14

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CMW16GX4M2K3600C16
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Catego...6GX4M2K3600C16

My ideal end goal would be 3600mhz with the lowest timings possible Zen 2 3800x

At least in my Experience 1.5v is nothing on b-die and that may get that 3200mhz kit at 3600mhz with CL14...

However lowering timings on that 3600mhz kit that far seems like a much smaller chance?
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B-Die is B-Die ignoring the crappy low bin stuff like the Antec 3/5 Series DDR4-2400, it's still largely just playing the silicon lottery. I'd imagine both would be able to do the others timings without much of an issue, just get the cheaper of the two.

I can run 3733/14 or 4000/15 with ~1.45v and my kit is pretty average, I didn't win the lottery with mine.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
B-Die is B-Die ignoring the crappy low bin stuff like the Antec 3/5 Series DDR4-2400, it's still largely just playing the silicon lottery. I'd imagine both would be able to do the others timings without much of an issue, just get the cheaper of the two.

I can run 3733/14 or 4000/15 with ~1.45v and my kit is pretty average, I didn't win the lottery with mine.
It’s more easy for me to bump volts and mhz then play with timings.

The 3200mhz kit is $219 the 3600mhz kit $210.
But amazon / eBay / Newegg the 3200mhz Kit is like $300 + where the 3600mhz kit can be had for $199
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I got the 3200mhz CL14 Kit. Was $200 on eBay via Newegg and I had that 10% off code.
Hopefully it does 3600mhz c14 lol
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Are those the only kits as choices? Why not get a GSkill? I have a 3200MHz version of this kit paired with a R5 3600 that im able to oc to 3733MHz for benching. I use DOCP 3333MHz CL16 for daily.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-...82E16820232880

The R7 3800X should be able to easily run it at 3600MHz.

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Are those the only kits as choices? Why not get a GSkill? I have a 3200MHz version of this kit paired with a R5 3600 that im able to oc to 3733MHz for benching. I use DOCP 3333MHz CL16 for daily.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-...82E16820232880

The R7 3800X should be able to easily run it at 3600MHz.
Yeah because I have the Corsair rgb pro dummy dimms. So I can have 4 rgb dimms.
It does stink I had to pay such a premium 😞
I really liked the looks of the g-skill trident rgb royal silver. Unfortunately g skill doesn’t do dummy dimms so I had to buy 4 and it was over $400 😞
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post
Yeah because I have the Corsair rgb pro dummy dimms. So I can have 4 rgb dimms.
It does stink I had to pay such a premium 😞
I really liked the looks of the g-skill trident rgb royal silver. Unfortunately g skill doesn’t do dummy dimms so I had to buy 4 and it was over $400 😞
Oh, i see. Then i suggest going for the 3600 MHz cos you might be able to run it at 3800 CL16. Timing is critical. Check this out. Mine is the one on the left.
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Ah to late, already bought the 3200mhz cl 14-14-14-34 hopefully can hold those timings @ 3600mhz
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Ah to late, already bought the 3200mhz cl 14-14-14-34 hopefully can hold those timings @ 3600mhz
That's fine. Both my 3200 kits did 3733. One C-die and the other B-die.

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