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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-26-2020, 07:45 PM - Thread Starter
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F4-3600C18D-32GTRS (i7 8700k) overclocking help sought

Hi everyone, I'd like to OC this memory but don't know what kind of baby steps to take first. Simply googling my memory and the query term "overclocking" has resulted in no hits other than Woomack's OC review of the 16GB variant of this memory (I presume, same timings).
https://www.overclockers.com/forums/...600C18D-16GTRS

Anyhow, it's stable under XMP, timings are a bit higher than I'd like, any recommendations as to where to start to try to OC these bad boys a little?

F4-3600C18D-32GTRS

Trident Z Royal
DDR4-3600MHz CL18-22-22-42 1.35V
32GB (2x16GB)

I love the way they look but I primarily got them after much research and coming to the conclusion that pushing for 4000Mhz+ with my motherboard is extremely difficult as it has single phase DRAM VRM (Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7). The web is littered with posts of people complaining about not being able to attain 4000 MHz+ even at 1.45v+ with this particular board. So knowing that, and seeing a few comparison videos showing the gains to be had simply going from 16 to 32GB of memory with the same freq and timings I decided to upgrade from my previous memory: F4-3200C16D-16GTZR (3200MHz CL16-18-18-38 1.35V) based on a 3200 MHz CL16 vs 3600 MHz CL18 video.

I figured there was some performance to be gained here and this would be about as good as it gets without spending a few hundred dollars more upgrading the motherboard to something with better DRAM VRM.

16GB vs 32GB

3200 MHz CL16 vs 3600 MHz CL18

I just ran Firestrike and although I wasn't expecting a gain in per-se in the Physics test I was surprised to see the CL18 3600 MHz memory run just slightly slower here, although the difference is too close and could be attributed to how variable this benchmark can be (I can run the same benchmark back to back with same temps and have Physics score vary by 50-100 points or more).

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/21916785/fs/21849156

I know that this is not the benchmark to gauge memory performance, it's just that the last time I tried upgrading the former memory (without success, it wasn't stable ultimately) from 3200 to 3466 MHz I did actually pick up a few hundred points in Firestrike Physics test.

I intend to run Cinebinch R15 and Aida64 later.

I can't find anything pertaining to overclocking this memory, I would be extremely grateful for any help with this.

Thanks in advance!

I forgot to add that this memory is on the G.Skill's updated QVL for this motherboard.

8700k @ 5.0 GHz - 0 AVX @ 1.342v w/ EK Monoblock + Delid | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 | EVGA 2080 Ti XC2 Ultra @ 2070 Mhz core, 8100 MHz memory @ 1.013v + Phanteks Glacier Block | EK SE 420 + EK PE 360 | 2x16GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600 MHz | 2 TB Sabrent Rocket | Corsair RM1000x | Thermaltake View 71 | Alienware AW3418DW + Asus ROG Swift PG278Q (for 3D Vision) on Amazon Basics Arms | Win10 Pro 1809
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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 02-27-2020, 04:47 PM - Thread Starter
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Zero replies *****, dead forum is dead, also getting threatened by moderators who find cyber-bullying stimulating, claiming I "begged" for cryptocurrency in another post. I see why OC.net has become a ghost town, moderators here are way too overhanded.

I could give two ****s about getting banned.

What's funny is that although the profanity above is automatically censored they will still try to claim that I used profanity.

So ridiculous, honestly I don't care, OC.net sucks.

I've already received help here at an real forum without power-hungry sociopaths pretending to be morally upright moderators.

If anyone has this memory and is curious about overclocking them, this is my experience:

https://www.overclockers.com/forums/...95#post8135695

8700k @ 5.0 GHz - 0 AVX @ 1.342v w/ EK Monoblock + Delid | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 | EVGA 2080 Ti XC2 Ultra @ 2070 Mhz core, 8100 MHz memory @ 1.013v + Phanteks Glacier Block | EK SE 420 + EK PE 360 | 2x16GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600 MHz | 2 TB Sabrent Rocket | Corsair RM1000x | Thermaltake View 71 | Alienware AW3418DW + Asus ROG Swift PG278Q (for 3D Vision) on Amazon Basics Arms | Win10 Pro 1809
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When you say your timings are higher than what you would like, what are they in comparison to the XMP timings listed for your ram? I would think you would have to OC that CPU a bit higher to achieve the 4Ghz RAM OC you are looking for.

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I'm not the best with RAM, but @XMP 3600, they are already pushed past their max bandwidth.
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Hard Drive
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Corsair H150i Pro
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