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post #371 of 383 (permalink) Old 08-25-2019, 10:27 AM
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Installed my loop:




I put the pump directly on my CPU header and put all 3 fans on the PWM hub on the phoenix unit.
Controlling all the fan/pump curves with Argus Monitor.


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post #372 of 383 (permalink) Old 08-29-2019, 10:21 AM
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Had to lap my CPU water block. There was a high spot in the middle and I managed a 10-15C temp reduction after lapping.

Prime95 small FFT jumped me immediately to 95C and that slowly cooled off to 85C as the pump/fans reached max speeds.



I pulled the block and inspected the TIM spread:



Clearly not seating flat against the CPU with an obvious high spot in the middle.

Broke out some 800-grit and wet-sanded a tad to see what was up:


Obvious high-spot:


Few more rounds of 800 grit to flatten out the CPU mounting area:




Polished up with 1000/1500/2000/2500/3000 and then a liquid polish



Then two quick runs of prime95 on default, and then back to small FFT to see how hot it would get. Flatlines at 80C and starts to fall:
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Hi there. I apologize if this has been answered already. I have spent all day trying to put together a list of parts I need for a PC and am a little burnt out. My build is rather unique and there is not a lot of info or compatible parts out there.

It will be using the Intel W-3175x on an ASUS ROG Dominus Extreme Motherboard.

I have everything figured out except my cooling solution (posted below). At this point I want to avoid a full custom loop. Although I may add that later, I just want to use an AIO. Unfortunately, that chip has an LGA 3647 socket which does not seem to have any compatible AIOs, except one from Asetek, which has been sold out for at least 5 months. I read a few reviews that stated they were using the EK-MLC 360mm Radiator (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-mlc-pho...or-core-module).

Here's what I would like to know.

It is my understanding that the EK Phoenix line is a modular AIO, which means I would not need a reservoir, and the different components are essentially plug and play with the quick connects. If that is inaccurate,
please correct me. At the moment I am only looking to cool the CPU. Can I use this radiator with the EK-Annihilator Pro (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-annihilator-pro-narrow-ilm). The Phoenix CPU blocks will not fit that particular socket, and appear to be pictured with hoses and fittings, as well as stating that they are pre-filled.

It looks like to make this work, I could purchase the EK-MLC 360mm Radiator, and if I got some fluid, hoses, and fitting, I could connect that to the CPU block. Or could I connect the fittings from the radiator directly to the CPU block? The pictures I see show both the radiator and CPU block having fittings for the other CPU blocks.

Any advice is welcome. Thanks for your help
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post #374 of 383 (permalink) Old 09-03-2019, 01:23 AM
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Hi there. I apologize if this has been answered already. I have spent all day trying to put together a list of parts I need for a PC and am a little burnt out. My build is rather unique and there is not a lot of info or compatible parts out there.

It will be using the Intel W-3175x on an ASUS ROG Dominus Extreme Motherboard.

I have everything figured out except my cooling solution (posted below). At this point I want to avoid a full custom loop. Although I may add that later, I just want to use an AIO. Unfortunately, that chip has an LGA 3647 socket which does not seem to have any compatible AIOs, except one from Asetek, which has been sold out for at least 5 months. I read a few reviews that stated they were using the EK-MLC 360mm Radiator (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-mlc-pho...or-core-module).

Here's what I would like to know.

It is my understanding that the EK Phoenix line is a modular AIO, which means I would not need a reservoir, and the different components are essentially plug and play with the quick connects. If that is inaccurate,
please correct me. At the moment I am only looking to cool the CPU. Can I use this radiator with the EK-Annihilator Pro (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-annihilator-pro-narrow-ilm). The Phoenix CPU blocks will not fit that particular socket, and appear to be pictured with hoses and fittings, as well as stating that they are pre-filled.

It looks like to make this work, I could purchase the EK-MLC 360mm Radiator, and if I got some fluid, hoses, and fitting, I could connect that to the CPU block. Or could I connect the fittings from the radiator directly to the CPU block? The pictures I see show both the radiator and CPU block having fittings for the other CPU blocks.

Any advice is welcome. Thanks for your help
Yes, you can either connect it up to the quick disconnects on the MLC rad/pump, or take off the existing tubing and hook it up directly.

Option 1:


Option 2:


You can just top off the original coolant with distilled water.
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Terrific, thanks. Is there a process I need to follow to remove air after adding fluid? As an aside, would there be any reason not to connect one radiator to another for multiple radiators? Hoping to get some more radiator surface area, so was thinking of doing a 240mm to a 360mm to the CPU block.
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Is there a process I need to follow to remove air after adding fluid?
Yeah, it's all in the EK MLC manual.

I suggest reading it, there's a lot of good info in there, esp at the end.
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Installed my loop:




I put the pump directly on my CPU header and put all 3 fans on the PWM hub on the phoenix unit.
Controlling all the fan/pump curves with Argus Monitor.


More pics:
https://imgur.com/a/4jhQZ8b
Your loop is very similar to my setup, except that I use 360+120 Phoenix radiators and installed an additional EK-DDC Pump+Reservoir combo to increase the flow (1000 l/h vs 250 l/h of the SPC pump included in the Phoenix). Tbh, looking in retrospective, maybe I should have bought the EK 360 Xtreme WC kit in the first place instead of being a lazy a$$

I´m happy with my setup and temps are ok´ish for an OC 9900K+ OC 2080Ti, but they´re not as good as in a proper WC Loop. The Phoenix tubes are way too long, and having 3 QDC restricts the flow. Also, I´m not an aesthetics whore but it´s really a bit of a mess with all those long black tubes. The good thing though, is that maintaining the loop will be a breeze, I bought another QDC just for emptying the coolant when necessary.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ROKUGAN View Post
Your loop is very similar to my setup, except that I use 360+120 Phoenix radiators and installed an additional EK-DDC Pump+Reservoir combo to increase the flow (1000 l/h vs 250 l/h of the SPC pump included in the Phoenix). Tbh, looking in retrospective, maybe I should have bought the EK 360 Xtreme WC kit in the first place instead of being a lazy a$$

I´m happy with my setup and temps are ok´ish for an OC 9900K+ OC 2080Ti, but they´re not as good as in a proper WC Loop. The Phoenix tubes are way too long, and having 3 QDC restricts the flow. Also, I´m not an aesthetics whore but it´s really a bit of a mess with all those long black tubes. The good thing though, is that maintaining the loop will be a breeze, I bought another QDC just for emptying the coolant when necessary.
Nice setup still. Did you leave the stock SPC pumps alone and just added a DDC? I have a MLC 360 and 280 in my system and was debating on replacing one of the SPC pumps with a DDC but was afraid if there would be issues with the SPC still in the loop.
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Nice setup still. Did you leave the stock SPC pumps alone and just added a DDC? I have a MLC 360 and 280 in my system and was debating on replacing one of the SPC pumps with a DDC but was afraid if there would be issues with the SPC still in the loop.
Yes, just added the DDC on top of the 2 SPCs in the MLC radiators. The DDC is connected to a separate WC pump header than the SPCs so I can control the speed independently (it´s about 2x faster typically at same %). Zero problems, all 3 in PWM. Also the reservoir makes it much easier to bleed the loop out of air. Don´t expect a huge improvement in temps, though. It´s more a convenience thing, also a double safe in case a pump in the radiator fails, as the SPC is a "value oriented" pump (in EKWB´s words).

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Hello all. I have bought on the recent price drops the Phoenix MLC 280 core+CPU block. I also bought the DDC elite 3.2 pwm pump to replace the SPC one. Unfortunately I did not manage to mount it due to being too hight(rotor). Is there something that I'm missing? Can only be replaced on the Predator unit and not on the Phoenix? Thanks.

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