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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 06:22 AM
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Been looking at that myself. Maybe not completely converting but adding a 360 or 420 to the loop and leave it run at a constant rate then for any heavy loads let whats already installed cycle up. If a 420 proves things can run and thermal dont go up Ill start removing one rad at a time in the case.

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Just added water temp sensor to both systems
Sort of surprised how warm the fluid is 31c not doing much of anything fans on low at 4.3 by core usage.

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Need to pick up some longer rad screws for 240 gtx rads darn hw labs didn't send hardly any screws for the rads I bought and of course ek rads screws are smaller :/

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Rad fan screws is something I dont have a short of. Keep about 100 of 3 different lengths on hand at all times. The one screw that has zero forgiveness. A little to short it wont grab, a little too long and your nice new rad now has a hole in it.
Yeah I always regulate fans and pumps from coolant temp sensors. Try to keep the coolant below 32C so minimum fan speed on aquaero 6 pro is 28C at 35% and 32C is 100%. Ill run it to 34C when ambient is just out of control and too warm. Thing with the external rad I can rig that in my window thats right behind my rig in the winter for some nice cooling and same window gets a window AC in the summer because this rig heat up my office profusely. Dont want to keep 3,000 sqft of house at 20C just to get one room reasonable.

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Quote: Originally Posted by JustinThyme View Post
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Been looking at that myself. Maybe not completely converting but adding a 360 or 420 to the loop and leave it run at a constant rate then for any heavy loads let whats already installed cycle up. If a 420 proves things can run and thermal dont go up Ill start removing one rad at a time in the case.
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On another note about the mono block deal
I looked at a ek copper evo supremacy yesterday and it is a the exact same thickness as the mono block cold plate is
I believe the guts of the evo would have to be used on the mono block because there is a 1/16" difference in depth from the evo and the mono block
EVO being deeper

If I run across a steal on another copper ek evo I'll pick one up to fool around with for my x299 mono block seems doable

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If the plates are machined that same I dont see why not. The EVO blocks pop up a lot on Discord B/S/T. Dont know about just plain copper though. If I see one going for cheap Ill hit you up. I quit with that and always go plated these days. Nickel works with anything except the old wives tail of the silver coils. I still remember the one and only time I mixed copper and aluminium. Nothing was salvageable.

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If the plates are machined that same I dont see why not. The EVO blocks pop up a lot on Discord B/S/T. Dont know about just plain copper though. If I see one going for cheap Ill hit you up. I quit with that and always go plated these days. Nickel works with anything except the old wives tail of the silver coils. I still remember the one and only time I mixed copper and aluminium. Nothing was salvageable.
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I like copper usually have to lap the darn thing anyway so bye bye nickel in that case

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I like copper usually have to lap the darn thing anyway so bye bye nickel in that case
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there turbo. Lapp your CPUs, that works. Lapping watercooling blocks alters the cooling profile of the blocks. You want your block to be at optimal efficiency, yes? Well lapping it will kill that. There are ways of getting the plating off that don't involve altering the cooling surface. Try looking through YouTube for some. Just please do not Lapp your blocks. They aren't perfectly flat but are hands down better than any air cooler base on the market.

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I call optimal flat as a pancake
Lap it/ slap it call it a day

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I call optimal flat as a pancake
Lap it/ slap it call it a day
Well I can't say I didn't try to be the voice of reason. No EKWB CPU block is flat. It's part of the design to account for the jet plate.

I am a copper guy myself. It's annoying me that they've become increasingly insistent on Nickel plating everything(see their Velocity RGB line) but I wouldn't recommend lapping their CPU blocks when I know I can get down to the copper w/o taking a single sheet of high grit paper to one.

Do what you want. It's your money and you're the one that has to learn the hard way I guess. Good luck to you in this process.

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Lapping isnt about getting the plating off, its about making the surface flat. I dont understand how a block that makes less than perfect contact is more efficient at heat removal. The idea is to get as much contact between the die/IHS and the block with TIMs only purpose to fill the micro scratches that can never be completely remedied. Ive found the EK blocks Ive had over the years to be hit or miss on the definition of flat. Some have been spot on, some have been concave and others convex. First test is put them on a flat surface and give them a spin. If they dont move then they are not convex. Test two lay a straight edge across them. If you see a gap then they are concave.

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