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post #1 of 325 (permalink) Old 05-28-2012, 10:52 PM - Thread Starter
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So I'm going to be building what I hope to be an upgrade-friendly system soon. I'm still working on exactly which parts I will be going with and am not in a hurry to finish as this is mostly for fun and to create a chassis/cooling system to use for many systems in the future. During my research, I've come across a number of things that I need some input back from the community in order to help make some decisions. I'd appreciate any comments or answers people have to help me out.

I will make updates to the original post as things progress.
Theme & Description (Click to show)
Theme
  • Colors - Matte Black, Tan, Warm Brown
  • Post-Build Oak/Mahogany Cover Panels
  • Amber Candle Flicker LED Lighting

Goals
  • Long term use of case and cooling system (many builds)
  • Scalable noise level from dead silent to normal conversation
  • Aesthetically pleasing / visible components
  • High performance

Uses
  • Software Development
  • Development: SQL Server
  • Development: Web Host
  • Development: VM
  • Gaming: Moderate with High-Requirement Games (+3D Vision)
  • Overclocking Fun (Extreme)
  • Overclocking Use (Practical)
  • Audio / Video Decoding / Encoding / Transcoding
  • DLNA Server
  • General Use: Internet, Office, Email, etc
  • BD-RW
  • High-End Audio (Audiophile Listening)
  • Future Use: Multi-Monitor
  • Future Use: Vegas Movie Studio

Components (Click to show)
Chassis
- CaseLabs Magnum SMH10 & Pedestal
- Custom solid wood cover panels; Oak, Coffee stain
- Custom solid wood front panel; mixed wood

Power Supply
- Corsair AX1200i Platinum

Motherboard
- Asus Sabertooth X79

Processor
- Intel 3930K

RAM
- Corsair Dominator 32GB 1600

Video Card
- nVidia GTX 670 Superclocked 4GB x2

SSD
- OCZ Vertex 4 256GB x2; RAID 0

HDD
- None. I may add mechanical drives at a later date if my NAS is not sufficient.

Controller
- Aquacomputer Aquaero 5 XT
- Aquacomputer PowerAdjust 2 x3
- ? Aquacomputer Multiswitch

Reservoir
- Koolance TNK-501
- Alphacool Cape Fuzion Core 10

Radiator
- Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 560mm x4
- Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper 480mm x2

CPU Water Block
- XSPC RayStorm

GPU Water Block
- XSPC Razor nVidia GTX 670 Full Coverage x2
- XSPC Razor nVidia GTX 670 Back Plate x2

Motherboard Water Block
- Koolance MB-ASSTX79 Asus Sabertooth X79

RAM Water Block
- XSPC Memory Copper Water Block x2

Fan
- Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15
- Bitspower 120mm to 140mm Adapter

Pump
- Swiftech MCP35X x4

Tubing
- Sleeved Tygon Norprene 1/2"ID 3/4"OD
- Bitspower Crystal Link
Layout Concept (Click to show)
SMH10

Pedestal
Water Flow Concept (Click to show)
Code:
    (Tmp)
      v
    .---.
    |Res|
    |   |<---------------+-----------.
    |   |<------.        |           |
    '---'     (Flo)    (Flo)       (Flo)
   .-' '-.      ^        ^           ^
   v     v      |        |           |
 (Pmp) (Pmp)    |      (Tmp)       (Tmp)
   |     |      |        ^           ^
   v     v      |        |           |
 (480) (560)    |        |           |
   |     |      |     .--+--.        |
   |     |      |     |     |        |
   v     v      |   (Mof) (Chp)      |
 (560) (560)    |     ^     ^        |
   |     |      |     |     |        |
   |     |      |   (RAM) (RAM)      |
   v     v      |     ^     ^        |
 (560) (480)    |     '--+--'     .--+--.
   '--+--'      |        |        |     |
      v         |      (CPU)    (GPU) (GPU)
    .---.       |        ^        ^     ^
    |Res|-------'        |        '--+--'
    |   |->(Pmp)---------'           |
    |   |->(Pmp)---------------------'
    '---'
      ^
    (Tmp)
Concept
The flow is controlled by 3 sets of pumps, the 2 parallel pumps against the radiators, the CPU sub-loop pump, and the GPU sub-loop pump. Each set will be dynamically controlled by the Aquaero soas to only provide greater flow and fan speed when it is necessary and only to the required parts of the loop.

Aquaero Algorithm
- If flow-recirculate is less than 0, increase radiator pumps
- If air/water delta raises, increase radiator pumps
- If air/water delta raises, increase fan speed
- If CPU temp increases, increase CPU pump
- If GPU temp increases, increase GPU pump
- If any pump exceeds X rpm, shut off pump and sound alarm
- If any flow besides flow-recirculate is less than 0.2 gpm, sound alarm
- If CPU or GPU approaches maximum, sound alarm
- If CPU or GPU temp exceeds maximum, shut down PC
Notes (Click to show)
  • PSU will be mounted to mid 120mm fan mount up-side-down
  • Side radiator mounts will be inverted and radiators mounted partly outside of the frame
  • Fans will be in a pull-only configuration
  • Fill and drain ports are built-in by using the exposed top and bottom 480 radiator G1/4 connections.
Pre-Build Information (Click to show)
  • I've never modified a case before.
  • I've never water-cooled before.
  • I've overclocked before, but only on air and not to extremes.
  • I've never built a computer that was quiet before.
  • I've never spent anywhere near the kind of money required for this on a computer before.
  • Nothing is sponsored, so I'm using money I've saved up for the last several years; if it gets too pricey, the build may be extended until more funds are available.
  • A digital camera will be among the first items purchased. (I don't own one)
Credits (Click to show)
I'd like to make sure that I give credit where credit is due to those who went out of their way to help me find and achieve what I was looking for.

Jim & Kevin at CaseLabs (http://www.caselabs.net)
- for helping to answer my unending questions, adding things to their store, and creating a superior product the likes of which are few and far between in the USA of today.

Lenore at Evil Mad Science (http://evilmadscience.com)
- for patience and working with me to help me get the hard-to-find LEDs I was looking for.

CPAChris, TheSeekerOfFun, Stren, and ASG
- for always being quick to answer whenever I had questions and for offering advice.

To everything, there is a beginning.


Some troubles along the way... (Click to show)
The AP-15 with 120/140 adapter requires insulation in push.



You need an extra 1mm space (from a washer) for the cover snaps if you want to reverse mount the radiators.



The Alphacool Cape Fuzion reservoir has holes that have 1/4 the area of a normal G1/4 connection, making it unusable without incurring a great deal of restriction.

The fun times... (Click to show)
Welcome to the AP-15 house.
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post #2 of 325 (permalink) Old 05-29-2012, 01:41 PM - Thread Starter
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[Update 2012/05/29]
  • Added additional questions
  • Added initial water flow concept
  • Changed placement of secondary DC5 and MCP35X for more optimal pressure and pump heat cooling ability to ensure CPU gets coldest water and both loops have optimal flow (changed point where loop has highest negative and positive pressure to be directly between water blocks). Usually not an issue, but having two pumps in series directly before CPU block with one known to sometimes reach boiling temps (100C) was a bad idea. Also increases turbulance in water block loop 360 radiator significantly.
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[Update 2012/05/30]
  • Made some adjustments to the flow design
  • Added 4 flow sensors to the loop, each with a 0 resistance valve and sub-loop soas not to interfere with flow performance unless I want to take readings; these will be as hidden as possible to avoid cluttering the window
  • Added a 0 resistance valve between the reservoir and radiator return loop to allow manual adjustment of both loops' maximum flows
  • SketchUp hates me... the feeling is mutual; I'll just have to deal with ASCII until my patience holds out
  • Preliminary math shows that with the current flow setup, I will likely need to run the MCP35X at minimum 50% unless I redirect a good portion of the D5 pump power into the 35X loop; was hoping for 25-30%, but not keen on the idea of more than one due to their massive power draw. If I decide against using Hydro Copper for the GPUs, it will easily free up the whole water block loop.
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[Update 2012/05/31]
  • Changed the original post a bit to make the Q/A section more condensed
  • Found/posted answers to some of my own questions
  • Changed PSU from Corsair to SeaSonic after some extra research
  • Added a few more questions
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[Update 2012/06/01]
  • Contacted CaseLabs to try to get some more measurements on parts of the case given certain optional attachments, but haven't heard back yet
  • Created an advice request thread today to try to get some feedback about the motherboard/cpu dilemma and the apparent disregard for enthusiasts by Intel (here)
  • I've got the itch now... The last time it was this bad I ended up with a dual P2 Xeon, Voodoo 3 3500, and a bunch of other stuff I didn't really need; I was freshman in high school at the time I think. I'll have to be careful now to make sure I don't make any hasty decisions.
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[Updated 2012/06/03]
  • Added some questions about the STH10 radiator mounting options.
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The offset on the radiator brackets is 15mm. You could flip them, but not sure you would get the fans to fit on the outside and still clear the covers.
Thanks. I'm just exploring the options. If i were to do this it would be with the intent of pull-only and sealing the chamber into a vacuum using other fans to pull additional air through. I'll make a quick concept diagram so you can see what I mean.
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       |
   _ _____ _
 _|_|__F__|_|_ 
| | |     | | |
|R|F|-> <-|F|R|
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Why not do push fans on the radiators and then have the other 2 sets of fans pushing air up?
I'm playing around with dimensions to see how I can fit all the plumbing, PSU, etc without sacrificing any radiator space. In a tight enough space, it may be possible to have 3 fans + PSU intake on a 480.
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