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you want the Female version since there wings will be longer then male version.

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You can crimp and solder it with the method I use. Which will give you two separate holds.

I use this method too... Worked well with AWG22, with AWG16 crimp is a bit messier, but with solder it holds perfectly
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I use this method too... Worked well with AWG22, with AWG16 crimp is a bit messier, but with solder it holds perfectly

^ Very true. I just did my first 22 AWG double wire the other day. I went ahead and used male "Molex" terminals since they have smaller wings and you can lock the terminal to the wire if you pinch the terminal a bit. The wire kept sliding out on the other terminal.

You can also do multiple Double wires on a single wire and if you do it close enough you only need to use one heatshrink to create the Y.






This is my other method of soldering double Wires, you will need helping hand tool to hold the wires for you.



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Need more practice,I don't know how it's going to look with 14 AWG wire thinking.gif
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Need more practice,I don't know how it's going to look with 14 AWG wire thinking.gif

Actually, that looks pretty good. I would have liked to have seen another wrap on the splice but that should hold alright. The soldering job is textbook perfect! The solder has saturated the joint, all the flux has been burned off, and you can still see the strands through the solder instead of being piled on. thumb.gif

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Hi all!

I want to talk a little bit about Hozan P-707 crimp tool, that I ordered from Japan.
If you are looking to purchase this tool you can find it on Amazon or eBay
I know that many people use similar, universal tools from Engineer, but this tool proved to be quite interesting




This crimping tool can be used to crimp both male and female versions of different terminals, onto 14-30 AWG wires. 15 various-sized dies make this product suitable for a wide range of terminal sizes, from small to large.
A list of P-707 compatible terminals is posted on Hozan website.

Crimp jaws are divided into two parts, the right for crimping wires, left (closer to the edge of the tool) for crimping insulation.



Using this crimp tool, you need to crimp the terminal in two separate operations: first you crimp the conductor and then you crimp the insulation.
That also allows for more flexibility in the choice of wire if the insulation is of difference diameter.
The crimping dies has a different thickness depending on the size (narrow for small wires/terminals, wider for larger wires/terminals)





CRIMPING OF VARIOUS TERMINALS photo review

This crimp tool does a pretty good job of crimping Molex KK 254 and JST PH 2.0 (female), terminals:



backside:



Mini-PV (DuPont) male terminal

This crimp tool have round insulation die (1.6mm round insulation crimp) and it works just fine with DuPont terminals.

Molex Mini-Fit Jr.

Wire size: OD=2.0mm

I'm afraid things aren't looking good here.
You will come across a problem if you use a wire OD=2мм and terminals with long wings.
This tool tends to bend one wing of the terminal before the other, so two wing will overlap (overlap insulation crimp) instead of meet in the middle and crimp downward.



Similarly crimps the tool from Molex, but it has crimp dies with an "overlap" profile on all pockets. Here we have a symmetrical, not deep profile and as a result we obtain a one-sided deformation (material extrusion in corner) of the terminal. This is wrong, but's not critical.

I used different dies for crimping insulation..
2.4mm - It has a small size as result- is a ruined terminal
2.9mm - one-sided deformation, acceptable result
3.5mm - it's a big size, we get a flattened terminal
the optimal size : 2.8-2.7mm .. but we do not have it in this tool.





Wire size: OD=2.3mm
When using AWG16 wire (OD=2.3mm), the result will be better, but it will not be ideal.



Left: Terminal crimped with Original molex tool, Right: Terminal crimped with P-707

Molex 8980
Does a great job of crimping Molex 8980 terminal:




Molex Serial ATA terminal 67581
similar result as with Mini-Fit Jr. terminals (see above).

CONCLUSIONS

Pros
  • high quality materials.
  • well made and accurate jaws.
  • marking on both sides of the jaws
  • elastomer grip
  • very versatile crimper for many different terminals
  • you can more reliably crimp with a light force by the toggle mechanism adopted
  • you'll be able to make crimps identical to factory ones (after little practice)
Cons
  • non- ratcheting, so you can apply just the right amount of pressure.
  • this currently costs from 6,260JPY in the Japan, maybe overpriced.
  • manual not included


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Spoiler!
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Finally I've got my wire ? and I can upload something here...
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Hi all!

I want to talk a little bit about Hozan P-707 crimp tool, that I ordered from Japan.
If you are looking to purchase this tool you can find it on Amazon or eBay
I know that many people use similar, universal tools from Engineer, but this tool proved to be quite interesting




This crimping tool can be used to crimp both male and female versions of different terminals, onto 14-30 AWG wires. 15 various-sized dies make this product suitable for a wide range of terminal sizes, from small to large.
A list of P-707 compatible terminals is posted on Hozan website.

Crimp jaws are divided into two parts, the right for crimping wires, left (closer to the edge of the tool) for crimping insulation.



Using this crimp tool, you need to crimp the terminal in two separate operations: first you crimp the conductor and then you crimp the insulation.
That also allows for more flexibility in the choice of wire if the insulation is of difference diameter.
The crimping dies has a different thickness depending on the size (narrow for small wires/terminals, wider for larger wires/terminals)





CRIMPING OF VARIOUS TERMINALS photo review

This crimp tool does a pretty good job of crimping Molex KK 254 and JST PH 2.0 (female), terminals:



backside:



Mini-PV (DuPont) male terminal

This crimp tool have round insulation die (1.6mm round insulation crimp) and it works just fine with DuPont terminals.

Molex Mini-Fit Jr.

Wire size: OD=2.0mm

I'm afraid things aren't looking good here.
You will come across a problem if you use a wire OD=2мм and terminals with long wings.
This tool tends to bend one wing of the terminal before the other, so two wing will overlap (overlap insulation crimp) instead of meet in the middle and crimp downward.



Similarly crimps the tool from Molex, but it has crimp dies with an "overlap" profile on all pockets. Here we have a symmetrical, not deep profile and as a result we obtain a one-sided deformation (material extrusion in corner) of the terminal. This is wrong, but's not critical.

I used different dies for crimping insulation..
2.4mm - It has a small size as result- is a ruined terminal
2.9mm - one-sided deformation, acceptable result
3.5mm - it's a big size, we get a flattened terminal
the optimal size : 2.8-2.7mm .. but we do not have it in this tool.





Wire size: OD=2.3mm
When using AWG16 wire (OD=2.3mm), the result will be better, but it will not be ideal.



Left: Terminal crimped with Original molex tool, Right: Terminal crimped with P-707

Molex 8980
Does a great job of crimping Molex 8980 terminal:




Molex Serial ATA terminal 67581
similar result as with Mini-Fit Jr. terminals (see above).

CONCLUSIONS

Pros
  • high quality materials.
  • well made and accurate jaws.
  • marking on both sides of the jaws
  • elastomer grip
  • very versatile crimper for many different terminals
  • you can more reliably crimp with a light force by the toggle mechanism adopted
  • you'll be able to make crimps identical to factory ones (after little practice)
Cons
  • non- ratcheting, so you can apply just the right amount of pressure.
  • this currently costs from 6,260JPY in the Japan, maybe overpriced.
  • manual not included


some more photos
Spoiler!
Looks like a decent tool.
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Hey friends. Sorry if I missed this...

I've been checking out the various Molex Connector part numbers. Very helpful resource: thank you for this. However, is there any reason there is no part number listed for Molex Female 8 Pin PCIe connectors? Molex Female 8 Pin EPS connectors are listed. Molex Female 6 Pin PCIe connectors are listed. But not the 8 pin PCIe. Seems weird as this is one of the most common connectors needed... almost ever rig will need at least one of these!

I had a look myself on Molex's website and similar story... what am I missing?!!!

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