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So, I got my 2nd R9 290 Tri-X. It was $549.99 with a 10% off promo code, so we got it for $494 before shipping from Newegg. My first one cost $579, so this one was only $50 over MSRP. We used mining money from the last few months to get it.

When I first got it I decided to just put the card in the top slot, replacing my first Tri-X, just to test and make sure the card wasn't dead. It wasn't, I messed with it for a few hours and overclocked it. It has an ASIC of 82.1%. However, it doesn't seem to like to do 1200mhz in Valley, I get artifacts. My first card has an ASIC of 80.4% but will do 1200mhz stably (albeit with a ton of voltage). Anyway, after finding this out I noticed the new card has lower voltage under load with the same offset. So, I decided to try and flash the BIOS. This didn't go well. On my first card, I've been using a 290X Tri-X bios since it will allow me to lower voltage for mining. I tried flashing this bios to the new card and it didn't work, when I rebooted my card was in low-res mode. I tried reinstalling the drivers, but it still ran in low res mode in Windows. I was curious, so I decided to flash the bios backup of my first card to the new card (015.042.000.000.000000). This didn't work either, low res Windows. So finally, I gave up and flashed the original bios it shipped with back to the new card. (015.043.000.001.000000). This may be a bad point to the newer Tri-X cards, it seems like you are extremely limited to what bios you can use, if not outright locked down to the one it shipped with. My older Tri-X (Bought beginning of January) doesn't have this problem.

I ordered more Bitfenix Alchemy Red PCI-E extension cables. I was thinking they were going to come today but they actually came yesterday. However, there was a problem, my girlfriend ordered an EPS 12V extension instead of an 8-pin PCI Express cable. I have no idea what an EPS 12V extension even is, and even less idea why the two cables LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. So, I ripped open the bags, took Big Red apart and then hooked another power supply PCI cable. I go to put the extensions on and the 6-pin works, but even with the 8-pin the right way, it won't go on. The physical plugs are shaped differently. Then I look at the packaging and see it's an EPS 12V cable. We go online to look for a Bitfenix Alchemy red 8-pin extension cable and they are literally sold out everywhere. Frozencpu doesn't have them, Performancepcs doesn't have them, Aztekcomputers doesn't have them, hell even Amazon doesn't have them. Most of these sites have none in stock and none on order. So, we ordered one on Amazon and they expect it to ship in 2 to 4 weeks. This means my machine won't look pretty enough to take pictures of for a while.

I've done some light benching so far and something seems to be borked with my system. I have both cards in it now. CrossfireX is enabled. Cards overclock fine. However, I'm only getting 90 fps in Valley with tess off. I saw people getting like 120 fps with R9 290s in the Valley thread. Granted, they had Intel chips, but would having Intel really make 30 fps difference? I don't think so. I'm not sure what the issue is. I'm getting about 17k in 3dmark11, graphics score is almost 30k, so that seems okay. Game performance is great, even in Eyefinity. It just seems to be Valley that's messed up.


The EPS 12v is for the 8-pin CPU power. They are pinned differently I am sure.

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The EPS 12v is for the 8-pin CPU power. They are pinned differently I am sure.

Ah, that thing. I just run the power supply cable for 8-pin and 4-pin behind my motherboard anyway, you can barely see them both plugged in at the top because my radiator covers them. Not sure why you'd need a sleeved extension for it.

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Ah, that thing. I just run the power supply cable for 8-pin and 4-pin behind my motherboard anyway, you can barely see them both plugged in at the top because my radiator covers them. Not sure why you'd need a sleeved extension for it.

Thanks for telling me, I didn't realize what it was.

I have my extension just because it allows me to route it nicely across the bottom and up the back side tucked away so I don't have to cross the mother board diagonally. If I could see it I would replace it with a full cable like my PCI-E and 24 pin.


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So, Big Red is going Intel.

As much as I like my FX-8350, I am absolutely tired of getting very low benchmark scores in old 3dmark benchmarks.

Additionally, I see people with Crossfire 290s in the Valley thread getting 120 fps on Extreme HD whereas the best I've done with my system is 92 fps. I guess having PCI-E 3.0 and vastly higher IPC on Intel really makes that much of a difference, 30 fps is huge. The weird thing is that with one 290 I can do 70 fps in Valley at 1200mhz, but with two cards I only get 90 fps. In Eyefinity at 5760x1080 it's a different story.

1200mhz single


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It's weird that I would get close to double the performance at 5760x1080p but way less than double on ExtremeHD. I've heard that higher resolutions is where Hawaii shines and this seems to prove it.

So anyway, I'm getting an i7 4770k and an ASUS ROG Maximus VI Hero. They should be here sometime this week. I promise I will take plenty of pictures of the teardown and rebuild.

I love AMD and I will continue to buy their GPUs, APUs in laptops and so on. The price/performance can't be beat. However, with 2 290s and 3 monitors it really does seem that Vishera is too slow and outdated to maximize performance.

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Alright, I promised I wouldn't do this, but these things are too cool.













Still waiting on 1 red PCI-E 8-pin extension, who knows when I'll get it.

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Single card 1200mhz:



So I get nearly double the fps at 5760x1080 but only 20 more fps at 1080p.

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