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I have a MSI 990FXA GD80 waiting for a old am3 cpu to boot up and update to am3+ bios and I do not like asus or any other brands than msi thumb.gif

And I'm sure you do. It's just that the man boards I have had, melt, overheat, bios errors, and would not cooperate with me. Especially the UEFI bios versions.

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And I'm sure you do. It's just that the man boards I have had, melt, overheat, bios errors, and would not cooperate with me. Especially the UEFI bios versions.
I know how you feel cause i used gigabyte 990FXA ud3 and their heat sink vrm and NB and gap pads gave me an hard time and it finally died on me thumb.gif

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And MSI yes It was gonna blow up if I didn't add some heat sink pads on no contact at all with heat sink on the vrm without pads thumb.gif








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Interesting. You said that your dad brings all this stuff home from where?
Why not just buy from newegg?

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Interesting. You said that your dad brings all this stuff home from where?
Why not just buy from newegg?
Good question my dad brings back my stuff from China, Recviing a AM3 athlon 2 x2 (2core) second hand he told me on the phone that it only cost 8.16USD (50RMB) and my radators it cost about 16.32 usd each for my 240MM radators and fittings a few cents and RAM water cooler kit costed about 63usd (heat sink pads, ram metal coolers every thing you need) water pumps brushless also cost about 13usd each, and water flow meter also around 13 usd each don't know about water temp meter though, but for the whole 3x 240mm radator from scratch + the metal block fittings it costed about 160USD (note that dad got 2 metal water blocks its included in the 160 usd) copper water CPU water blocks in china also cost about 40-100USD max depending on model and design

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So you dislike Asus, the company who makes the absolute best AM3+ motherboard, the CHV-FZ, and the second best, the Sabertooth R2.0?

MSI's GD80 is not the abysmal, potentially explosive excuse for a board that the large majority for the platform are, but there is a difference between "aacceptable" and "ideal".

AActually, I would say Asus made the largest effort to deliver quality boards for AM3+, and they actually delivered. Most companies just made the bare minimum, although in ffairness the FX-series processors power draw when overclocked is absolutely absurd, so bad that I don't fault any company who's boards began development before they had true "final version" sample chips, and even then prototypes are by their very nature different due to the difference in production for a small amount vs worldwide distribution.
AMD deserves part of the blame for developing something that is something of a contradiction... Consumes 200W+ but we'reuusingan inferior process so 72C can kill yyour chip, which we market as God's gift to overclockers and even sell the worst performance per dollar CPU in recent history, the 9xxx whatever because we are suffering an unprecedented low in Product Comparison Bulletpoints we can twist to make us look semi-competent, but now we have "First5Ghz chip" jjust don't read subnotation 9374B71.5 because it totally doesn't say that it is not 5Ghz x8 "cores" and is only a measurement of Single module boost or anything....


Asus consistently creates the absolute highest-end boards for both Intel (Rampage Extreme series) and also AMD (Crosshair Series), although Gigabyte has become a very strong contender the past few gens. MSI and the rest have occasional hits, but the trend is inconsistent at best.

I owned a Crosshair V Formula Z, and it is in another class re build quality, component quality, features, and so forth vs theGD80. Ssame with the Sabertooth R2.0, which is the best board for regular overclocking based on components and design, and I think HWBot would support this...
Consequently, you would be better off with the Sabertooth, especially considering how you approach overclocking in a, umm, "unique" fashion, that values voltage over learning from the many of us who've been doing this for orders of magnitude greater time...

Basically, Asus went way out of their way to deliver the best possible product at the target price, over myriad target prices, and delivered in every possible way.
They did all this for a market that is a very small subset of an already niche market.
This is exactly what I would think you would want to support, and thereby encourage others to follow.
I am not surprised that you did the opposite.

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So you dislike Asus, the company who makes the absolute best AM3+ motherboard, the CHV-FZ, and the second best, the Sabertooth R2.0?

MSI's GD80 is not the abysmal, potentially explosive excuse for a board that the large majority for the platform are, but there is a difference between "aacceptable" and "ideal".

AActually, I would say Asus made the largest effort to deliver quality boards for AM3+, and they actually delivered. Most companies just made the bare minimum, although in ffairness the FX-series processors power draw when overclocked is absolutely absurd, so bad that I don't fault any company who's boards began development before they had true "final version" sample chips, and even then prototypes are by their very nature different due to the difference in production for a small amount vs worldwide distribution.
AMD deserves part of the blame for developing something that is something of a contradiction... Consumes 200W+ but we'reuusingan inferior process so 72C can kill yyour chip, which we market as God's gift to overclockers and even sell the worst performance per dollar CPU in recent history, the 9xxx whatever because we are suffering an unprecedented low in Product Comparison Bulletpoints we can twist to make us look semi-competent, but now we have "First5Ghz chip" jjust don't read subnotation 9374B71.5 because it totally doesn't say that it is not 5Ghz x8 "cores" and is only a measurement of Single module boost or anything....


Asus consistently creates the absolute highest-end boards for both Intel (Rampage Extreme series) and also AMD (Crosshair Series), although Gigabyte has become a very strong contender the past few gens. MSI and the rest have occasional hits, but the trend is inconsistent at best.

I owned a Crosshair V Formula Z, and it is in another class re build quality, component quality, features, and so forth vs theGD80. Ssame with the Sabertooth R2.0, which is the best board for regular overclocking based on components and design, and I think HWBot would support this...
Consequently, you would be better off with the Sabertooth, especially considering how you approach overclocking in a, umm, "unique" fashion, that values voltage over learning from the many of us who've been doing this for orders of magnitude greater time...

Basically, Asus went way out of their way to deliver the best possible product at the target price, over myriad target prices, and delivered in every possible way.
They did all this for a market that is a very small subset of an already niche market.
This is exactly what I would think you would want to support, and thereby encourage others to follow.
I am not surprised that you did the opposite.
Dispite the fact that asus got the highest clocks on CPUZ I don't reckon it will suit me cause of the chokes
Before you talk about MSI and more you need to know that they are using 10X of a bad ass Fat type Transistors for their mobo (could have been better if they got larger sized 80Amps or higher)
These are 40A at 12V or 38A at 19V

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXAGD80.html#hero-overview
"DrMOS possesses switch frequency which is 400% faster than traditional MOSFET" 4X faster than normal transistors meaning you will get more precise and accurate voltage and current flow
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/mainboard/msi-990fxa-gd80-990fx-p1.html
You also wanna have a look at the review now just me "The CPU VRM has 10 phases based on FairChild FDMF6704V DrMOS chips, induction coils with ferrite cores and Tantalum capacitors (15 x 470 µF in the low-voltage circuit, 5 x 470 µF solid in the input circuit)"
Also Take Asus out of the Market without double the ammount of chokes they are using on their top am3+ mobo [/B]it will over heat once your overclock and stress on hard core voltages (Thats why you want msi super freite chokes higher current out put so it runs cooler)
VRM PICTURE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE MARKET its gonna blow up once it goes into the hands of Iwamotto Tetsuzo and getting some sick cpu voltages through the core with stress on for the night for stability test>>>>>
http://rog.asus.com/118772012/crosshair-motherboards/preview-crosshair-v-formula-z/
http://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/crosshair-v-formula-z-extreme-engine-digi-2.jpg

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Well, Tetsuzo, you just solved the mystery of the single MSI AM3+ motherboard that actually shines. Yes, it has super ferrite chokes, but more importantly, no Nikos! When you put Nikos out of the equation, suddenly the chances you make a very good board, skyrocket! Thanks to your photo, i found it uses Fairchild DrMos. This is the exact model used:

https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/FD/FDMF6705.pdf

I think you deserve a rep for making this board officially safe.

Compare Fairchild (actually an american company with 60 years behind its back) awards

https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/awards-accolades/

and history
https://www.fairchildsemi.com/about/history-heritage/

To Nikos:

http://english.niko-sem.com/in/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Category=103961&Part=CompanyProfile

At the end, when you dig out things, it all turns out to make sense, doesn't it...
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So hers the picture of a FXA990 gd80 VRM and when i saw the transistors so many legs(fat design) i'm thinking that must be some kind of latest design of transistors generating higher out put and operating at lower temps. and i only took a picture since i added some new paste for it preparing it to be ready to go in december and yeah over board with heat sink paste on vrm, also note that msi has its heat sink fitted on properly without having to add spacers unlike other mobo that uses gap pads and you must have a spacer for it to fit properly on ....
Also why its better because they have chockes that out put 30% higher current meaning it will run 30% cooler than normal chockes



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Currently water temp and CPU IHS temp are 30-40C diffrence meaning my steel water block is hell of a hold back, with copper we would have around 7-20C CPU IHS and water temp diffrence thumb.gif

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Finally figured that once you overheat and kill your cpu your motherboard dies with it since the transistors at the back equals to the temp of cpu (touch the back of your GPU core same temps)

The phmon 2 was on the old msi gd80 and i forgoot to put on my pump for the 280 nepton and killed it and was wating for a nother cpu till i got the 8usd second hand 220Athlon and figured out that mother board socket overheats and dies with CPU since its same or near temps
and the parts is here and the 4300 is being polished by a 320 and a 1200 high grade sand paper and it is becoming an golden core (ignoring that its not a golden bin CPU, looks of IHS), reciving shippment of a new fxa990 gd80 brought online and arvies around 17-29of december, and the 3 radators extra pump and taking away resiverior will happen tommrow, and the lasping of cpu water block (its actually a copper block coated with heaps of steel colour paint - -)

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