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post #361 of 562 (permalink) Old 08-16-2018, 04:42 PM
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Thanks and yes lucky to get these blocks! I now have four hard drive waterblocks but only need two. I think I'm going to hang the two I'm not using on the wall in my workshop... just so I can admire them



Yes I can't wait to see how they look once they are polished





Now onto the sad news. If you haven't heard by now, CaseLabs is going out of business and closing their doors

I have seen them get behind before and have to stop taking orders so that they could catch up, but I really never saw this coming! I was bummed out all weekend once I found out. It is a very sad time for the enthusiast PC building community. I seriously doubt that any company will ever be able to fill the void left from the demise of Caselabs, hopefully I'm wrong.

Meanwhile I'll have to be extra careful with all of my panels since there is now no way to ever replace them
I actually am not sure about what you mean by polishing, looking forward to see it =)
And yeah man I have known from the start and was temped to post something to encourage you to do something amazing with this build in memory of them. well you will anyway but still! Didn't want to post about the sad news here though I kept quiet. But yeah that sucks... in all honesty I am not such a huge fan but that's because I don't like too much industrial designs, I prefer the curves Phanteks offer. Another thing but that's very personal I have seen too many SMA8 look pretty much the same and I got fed up with those. That said they sure have been a key company in the heart of enthusiasts and I don't like to see them go at all

Just be careful and don't scratch anything

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Testing the Seagate 12TB Iron Wolf Pro Hard Drives

I know it’s hard to get excited about hard drives these days (pun intended ), but I am pretty psyched up about these hard drives!

When I started this build I was planning on using Western Digital Red 8TB hard drives, which was the largest available at the time. I almost bought some hard drives while I was waiting for the motherboard to become available. I’m glad I waited since I’ll now have 50% more mass storage space with these Seagate 12TB Iron Wolf Pro hard drives!

Originally I planned to use Western Digital Red hard drives not just because they are meant for RAID arrays, but also because the color scheme matched the build. But the Western Digital Red drives max out at 10TB at the moment, and the label side of the hard drives aren’t going to show now that I’m using water blocks, so I might as well use the larger drives from Seagate.

I’ve heard that Seagate is coming out with 14TB drives soon, but I’m ready now, and this is going to be basically unlimited storage for me anyways. I ordered the drives from B&H Photo Video, here is the boxes they came in.




Wrapped in anti-static bags and packed well.




Here’s a first look at these monster drives.






Here is the back side of the drive.






I have never tested hard drives before installing them. I have always just put them in, and they have always worked fine. I did have an external 2TB Seagate drive fail on me once, but really I have always found that for the most part, hard drives just work.

I wanted to test these hard drives because they are getting waterblocks now, and it will require a drain and fill to swap a hard drive out! I hooked them up to my daily driver rig for now just for testing purposes.

Seagate has a nice software tool called “SeaTools for Windows”. It will perform a variety of tests on the hard drives. Well these two drives failed almost every test in the SeaTools software! This really surprised me as I was expecting them to both pass with flying colors!

I copied some content onto the drives and they seemed to work fine, but still failed most of the tests, so I RMA’d the drives with B&H for exchange. They swapped them out no questions asked, but it did take nearly three weeks which I thought was longer that it should take, but no big deal.

For the second set of drives, they sent me two separate packages with one drive in each box. They both came at the same time shipped from the same location, not sure why

These two drives initially failed the SMART test out of the box, but passed all the other tests perfectly. Most of the tests are fairly quick except for the “Long Generic” test, that one actually takes more than 24 hours to complete!

I copied a bunch of files to the new drives, and retested them, now the SMART test passes along with all the other SeaTools tests, so I think I’m good to go with these hard drives.

I ran a CrystalDiskMark test on the new Seagate 12TB drives. This is pretty impressive for hard drives




Here is a comparison CrystalDiskMark test from the Western Digital 4TB drive that is in that rig.




The upper drive is the new Seagate 12TB drive, the lower one is a 4TB Western Digital drive.
See a problem here?




This picture is with the waterblock on the 4TB drive. Notice the difference in the mounting screw locations? This waterblock needs two more holes to be secured properly to these hard drives.




After doing some research I found that the hard drives larger than 8TB need more room for all the platters, and there is no room for the screw hole in the center, or the center hole on the sides of the drives.

The problem is that these waterblocks do not have a hole in that location, and two screws certainly are not enough to properly secure the waterblocks to the hard drives!

I will need to get some precise holes drilled into the waterblocks so that I can secure them properly to these 12TB hard drives. The only problem is that all I have at home is a vise and a hand drill


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HDD blocks… Is there anything in this build that you’re not watercooling?

I can’t deny it, they look absolutely superb. Though how you’re so calm about that mounting hole issue is beyond me - exactly the sort of little incompatibility that sends my blood pressure skyrocketing!



Oh and ‘Iron Wolf’ drives? I’ve got to get some of those…

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Hey bud, thanks for stopping by! I haven't seen you around for awhile. I saw on another thread you picked up another Caselabs case. Nice score!


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HDD blocks… Is there anything in this build that you’re not watercooling?

I can’t deny it, they look absolutely superb. Though how you’re so calm about that mounting hole issue is beyond me - exactly the sort of little incompatibility that sends my blood pressure skyrocketing!



Oh and ‘Iron Wolf’ drives? I’ve got to get some of those…
Yes I'm not water cooling the SSDs going in the hot sway bays, or the power supply
Even though I have seen a watercooled PSU.



I never even thought about the Iron Wolf drives being a perfect fit for you IRONBEAST build.

They would be a perfect fit for that


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Modding the HDD Waterblocks for mounting to the Seagate 12TB Drives

The bottom hard drive shows the bottom mounting screw hole layout that was used on hard drives for many years. On the new larger hard drives 8TB and up, they use more platters, and it was necessary to move two screw holes on the left out wider and remove the middle screw holes on the sides of the hard drives.

The top drive in this picture is one of the Seagate 12TB hard drives I’ll be using. The two holes on the right are in the same location, the two on the left are the newer wider layout.




Since the waterblocks I have only have holes for the old layout, I need two more holes in each waterblock.




All I have at home is a vise with a hand drill. I’m pretty good with a drill, but the two holes I need in these waterblocks need to be precisely drilled.

I know that my friend I ski with every Saturday for six months out of the year has a little machine shop set up in the back corner of his hangar. So I ask him if he has a drill press in his machine shop, and if he can drill a few holes for me.

He chuckles and says “yeah what do you need?” So I explain the two holes I need drilled in the two waterblocks, and he says “no problem, but let’s ski first”. He likes to ski with no hands!




Here’s the technical drawing of the drive I found on Seagate’s web site. The holes I need drilled are exactly 3” away from the mounting holes on the end with the connectors. Of course I verified this with my digital calipers on the hard drives just to be sure.




Some drill press huh? He’s going to use this fancy milling machine with a digital display. Once he measured the hole size and set the machine up, he just dials it over 3” (I know it’ a pinch off being actually 3.0002” ) from the existing hole and it’s ready to drill.




It drills through the copper like butter! I put the masking tape on there to mark roughly where the holes were supposed to be, to make sure we measured 3” from the correct holes since it is not a symmetrical layout.




Here’s a look just to the left behind the milling machine.




From that same spot I turn around to show you the rest of the hangar. You can see from here two airplanes, a model A, a Corvette, a Turbo Porsche, and a bunch of early Camaros, including a rare 1968 Z28




Here’s the block with the extra holes drilled.




It lines up perfectly.




It mounts up nicely to the 12TB drives now. I may get some socket head screws to match the rest of the build, and cut two screws off short and glue them into the center screw holes in the waterblocks rather than leave them empty. That should make it look a little cleaner.




Now to polish these waterblocks


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Quite the build you got here. Took a while to catch up. I saw someone questioned what you did about the capacitors on the EVGA cables when making new ones and you said you just left them off. I too made my own custom sleeved cables a few years ago for my EVGA G2 PSU and I left them off because I found after research they are just there to act as ripple suppressing capacitors. This worked for everything except the graphics card. My PC would not post correctly on the cable I made even after verifying multiple times I made the pin-out correctly. I ended up adding the capacitors back to the cable and it worked perfectly. Hopefully you have better luck!



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Quite the build you got here. Took a while to catch up. I saw someone questioned what you did about the capacitors on the EVGA cables when making new ones and you said you just left them off. I too made my own custom sleeved cables a few years ago for my EVGA G2 PSU and I left them off because I found after research they are just there to act as ripple suppressing capacitors. This worked for everything except the graphics card. My PC would not post correctly on the cable I made even after verifying multiple times I made the pin-out correctly. I ended up adding the capacitors back to the cable and it worked perfectly. Hopefully you have better luck!
Wow I have never heard of that. Thanks for the heads up! I will keep that in mind if I have a problem.




I've been working on polishing the HDD water blocks... lots of work. I'm a little under the weather right now

So I'm not sure if I'll have an update ready for this weekend, but as soon as I finish the first HDD block I'll get a post up. I'm going to show you each step along the way of how I did it, and compare it to the stock unpolished block.


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Well I just lost all of nice update that I had worked on for hours by accidentally closing my browser when I was just about done

This new site just sucks for posting

The old one would have saved all of my work automatically.

I am going to finish this build, but this crap just makes me feel like saying screw it and not showing it here!



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Well I just lost all of nice update that I had worked on for hours by accidentally closing my browser when I was just about done

This new site just sucks for posting

The old one would have saved all of my work automatically.

I am going to finish this build, but this crap just makes me feel like saying screw it and not showing it here!
Meh that sucks, man
I know the feeling it happened to me once. Redacting a build log is something I find very enjoyable but retyping something trying to remember what you previously wrote is very frustrating and demotivating :/

[Build log] Enthoo Elite | Direct Die Cooled Silicon Lottery 7980XE | 1080 Ti SLI | MDPC-X Sleeving | 2100x140 watercooling loop
Asus ROG Rampage VI Extreme Omega
Intel Core I9-7980XE @5GHz
Asus ROG Matrix 2080 Ti SLI
Phanteks Enthoo Elite
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