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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 04-06-2018, 09:39 AM - Thread Starter
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[X58] X is for Xeon - Budget Gaming!

The X58 platform is still as usable and reliable as it was in the beginning. With enough homework and careful combing of the second-hand market, you can find affordable but working parts to create something plenty potent in gaming at 1080p - even with the current GPU hike.

There are one or two parts I am still looking to get, so the components may change up a little, but nothing that will greatly affect the outcome of this bargain gaming build. Lets get started!

CPU: Xeon X5650 6C/12T 2.66Ghz
CPU Cooler: VTG120 AIO Water Cooler
Motherboard: Asus X58 Sabertooth Motherboard
RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz (2X8GB)
GPU: ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 760 MARS
PSU: EVGA 850W P2 Platinum PSU (Originally: Corsair TX 650W PSU)
Storage: 250GB SSD, 500GB Seagate HDD, 2TB WD HDD (Originally: WD 500GB)
Case: Corsair Carbide Air 540 Case

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A closer look at the case that we will be using, the Corsair Carbide Air 540.
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In anticipation of receiving the Motherboard, CPU and RAM, I have installed the Corsair PSU and have routed all the cables as best as possible to where they need to be and have cable tied the rest to keep it as neat as possible in the back.

I have also managed to snag an ASUS ROG MARS GTX 760 4GB graphics card for this build! More pictures of that to follow!
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I'm curious why you didn't go with a unlocked model for the CPU, the W3580 for example is 4c/8t, but has unlocked multiplier and I bought one two weeks ago for like $40 CAD shipped.

Can't wait to see how it looks like though


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I'm more curious why you didn't go with a 6-core processor like an X5675. The best excuse to get a secondhand X58 motherboard is because they support six cores. The additional L3 cache makes quite a difference. I noticed my system perform smoother before ever overclocking my X5670.

For your RAM, did you go 2x8 or 4x4? X58 uses triple channel. I've never tried triple channel with four DIMMs but that seems like an awkward proposition to me.

Lastly, the single best investment you can make, in my opinion, is a solid state drive. Your motherboard doesn't have real SATA3, but that doesn't really matter. SSD performance with SATA2 makes HDDs look like they're standing still.

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An update, and with it, answers to your questions.

So, I originally bought the Motherboard, CPU and RAM as a working bundle on eBay. However, the seller did not state specifically which Xeon CPU was in it, so I low-balled and predicted it to be a X3440, which is why I listed it as such and would edit my original post if it were in any different. I can now happily say it came with an X5650 and was overclocked to 4.0Ghz, although I reset that during some initial no-boot issues, which are now fixed - turns out there was some very small hair and fluff in the CPU socket that I did not notice upon first inspection!

The motherboard is currently running in a 2x8GB configuration, and if I ever find myself with the opportunity to get my hands on a third 8GB stick for cheap, I will stick it in the system.
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That processor is a pleasant surprise. The Westmere Xeons are stellar overclockers. As for your RAM, you aren't missing much by running dual channel. You won't notice unless you're doing something that depends on memory bandwidth. That isn't gaming.

I'm not sure how much experience you have overclocking on this platform, but I recommend keeping QPI/VTT at 1.35V or lower. Higher values are known to kill processors. These processors are rather affordable so you shouldn't have a problem getting your hands on a replacement, but I think it's better to be safe than sorry.

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After unwrapping the parts, I began installing everything I had so far. I was very excited! My progress followed as in the pictures below.
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That processor is a pleasant surprise. The Westmere Xeons are stellar overclockers. As for your RAM, you aren't missing much by running dual channel. You won't notice unless you're doing something that depends on memory bandwidth. That isn't gaming.

I'm not sure how much experience you have overclocking on this platform, but I recommend keeping QPI/VTT at 1.35V or lower. Higher values are known to kill processors. These processors are rather affordable so you shouldn't have a problem getting your hands on a replacement, but I think it's better to be safe than sorry.
2x8GB it is, then! I will be sure to keep the QPI/VTT below 1.35v. When I get around to overclocking, i'll be sure to drop you a message if I need anything, thank you! Hopefully a video or a thread around here will save me from bothering you. This system looks very complicated but suitable for overclocking.

Now, the AIO cooler I have ordered has yet to arrive - that will be later this week - and I wanted to get this thing running and posting. Up until this point I did not know which CPU I had installed. So, I went and borrowed the Seidon AIO cooler from my D5400XS Skulltrail Build and had a go at installing it in this build. Initially the back plate objected and didn't feel like lining up properly, but, I persuaded and said nice things to it for encouragement, and now it's finally installed.

I plugged in the power, hit the power button and it burst into life! However, after noticing a red CPU and RAM led lit up on the motherboard permanently and no video signal going to my monitor at all, I was stumped and worried I had an expensive problem on my hands - a dead *something* or other. After multiple RAM configurations, a different graphics card, a different PCI-E slot, double checked every power connector to the system, a different video output (HDMI instead of VGA), I bit the bullet and decided to recheck the CPU socket. After removing the cooler, it turns out there was a very small hair within the pins of the socket itself, with a very, very small amount of fluff on the end of it. I picked it out carefully with a pin and prayed that this was the culprit, and, thankfully, the computer gods smiled upon me and answered my prayer! A few minutes later, I hit the power button and both the CPU and RAM led disappeared and the system booted into life, posting immediately! Woo!

Once my new AIO cooler arrives, I will remove the placeholder and install it. After that.. possibly, maybe.. scratching the now new itch to make this my main system, replacing my currently stock i5-2500k, 6GB of RAM and GTX 660Ti - the 4th RAM slot on the end decided to stop working recently, going from 8GB to 6GB. It does have a fast 250GB SSD to boot and two large hard drives.

I would definitely like to get overclocking this thing, knowing it has great potential! And, if I do, my EVGA 850W P2 PSU will be going in it, the XFX 850W CORE will go in the D5400XS Skulltrail build, and then the Corsair TX 650W will power the i5-2500k build. In doing this, the "budget" idea of this build does get warped quite a bit, but the opportunity to make some money back on selling the two remaining systems once all is said and done, plus gaining a 6C/12T beast, it's hard to ignore the opportunity.
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Great, that's real good news! That dual 760 is very sweet too! I run a 290X Lightning on my X58 rig

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