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post #21 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-21-2019, 04:28 PM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
If you can change it, then indeed change it.

As far as wattage goes You likely will want to double the wattage of your GPU and increase the peak wattage of the PSU. I typically calculate what my components run and then double the GPU draw and get a PSU with pretty sizeable headroom for overall. It let's your PSU run at a constant while not spooling up the fan to cool the unit as much as that Rosewill PSU will no doubt have been doing. I suggest a 750 or 850. I usually look at Corsair, Seasonic or EVGA for PSU options over anybody else.

I'm currently running an EVGA 850w G3 on Black Snow. Should I wish to xFire I will have more than enough headroom and the PSU won't be spooling up all the time.

Edit: The PSU had completely slipped my mind the last time I posted. My soon to be 4 y/o son was bouncing off the walls.

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i tried but it was too late to change the psu. i don't mind the noise or that it will spin up. the 1080ti from what i gather, has microstuttering introduced when overclocked anymore than it already is (i will keep msi gaming x in its "gaming mode". there is an "OC mode" but frame time variance happens which produces stuttering). "gaming mode" seems optimal, according to tomshardware, max OC = 2050mhz tortured = 333.7watts. typical power consumption under "torture" conditions is 288watts. the cpu will be maxed to however far i can push it though with no consequence to frame time variance. (we're talking about quick minimum fps drops that appear as stuttering)
i realize now that i'm cutting it close. is this going to work? recommended psu is 600w, this is 550w


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i tried but it was too late to change the psu. i don't mind the noise or that it will spin up. the 1080ti from what i gather, has microstuttering introduced when overclocked anymore than it already is (i will keep msi gaming x in its "gaming mode". there is an "OC mode" but frame time variance happens which produces stuttering). "gaming mode" seems optimal, according to tomshardware, max OC = 2050mhz tortured = 333.7watts. typical power consumption under "torture" conditions is 288watts. the cpu will be maxed to however far i can push it though with no consequence to frame time variance. (we're talking about quick minimum fps drops that appear as stuttering)
i realize now that i'm cutting it close. is this going to work? recommended psu is 600w, this is 550w


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No, the PSU will be fine. It may not be a high-end unit, but for a single GPU system, even this 550W continuous rated unit is enough. I say again, continuous rated. 550W isn't this PSU's peak. It's what it should be able to deliver 24/7 if it were ever needed. It has a +12V capacity of 540W. If this PSU's peak capacity were 550W, then its +12V would be much lower, more like 396W.

The recommended PSU spec you see for video cards is for peak-rated PSUs. A typical 600W peak-rated PSU would have a +12V capacity of no more than 432W.


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No, the PSU will be fine. It may not be a high-end unit, but for a single GPU system, even this 550W continuous rated unit is enough. I say again, continuous rated. 550W isn't this PSU's peak. It's what it should be able to deliver 24/7 if it were ever needed. It has a +12V capacity of 540W. If this PSU's peak capacity were 550W, then its +12V would be much lower, more like 396W.

The recommended PSU spec you see for video cards is for peak-rated PSUs. A typical 600W peak-rated PSU would have a +12V capacity of no more than 432W.

wew neat i'm happy to hear this


i've narrowed down the ram choices:
patriot 2x8gb (not b-die)
MHz:3733CL:17 (actual: 3466 cl:16 = Calculated nanoseconds: 9.23254472)
Calculated nanoseconds:
9.10795606
$95
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corsair dominator 2x4gb (8gb version moduals are b-die. can't find info on these)
MHz:3733 CL: 18
Calculated nanoseconds:
9.64371818
$97
vs
gskill tridentz 2x4gb (yes b-die)
MHz:3600 CL: 17
Calculated nanoseconds:
9.44444444
$89
vs
gskill ripjaws 2x8gb (unknown)
MHz: 3466 CL: 16
Calculated nanoseconds:
9.23254472
$141
vs
gskill ripjaws 2x8gb (yes b-die)
MHz: 3200 CL: 14
Calculated nanoseconds:
8.75
$156

seems the patriot is still optimal
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Try finding HyperX Predator 3600 CL17, these are B-Dies too.

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Try finding HyperX Predator 3600 CL17, these are B-Dies too.
i am aware. the ones listed were the cheapest best ones i could find. that one is $178 and was quickly dismissed
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i changed the 8700k for 9700k for the boost in minimums although i'm afraid that it may have higher frame time variance which produces stuttering
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i changed the 8700k for 9700k for the boost in minimums although i'm afraid that it may have higher frame time variance which produces stuttering
Yes, that's what I found in my research when I was trying to decide between the 9600K, 8600K, 8700K, and 9700K. I haven't made any purchases yet (it's looking like I won't have enough money for several months now), but all my research points me to one inescapable conclusion: the 8700K should provide the best gaming performance and overclocking, and the price is much more reasonable.


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Yes, that's what I found in my research when I was trying to decide between the 9600K, 8600K, 8700K, and 9700K. I haven't made any purchases yet (it's looking like I won't have enough money for several months now), but all my research points me to one inescapable conclusion: the 8700K should provide the best gaming performance and overclocking, and the price is much more reasonable.
i actually bought the 8700k and its still here in its box untouched but i changed my mind and i'm sending it back to amazon. the 9700k will be here tomorrow. my goal is for highest fps minimums possible while considering price/performance and i concluded that 9700k was worth it. its the slightly higher clock speed that does it for me + the fact that it will get better thermals being soldered which saves me from buying the deliding tool + liquid metal for eliminating the potential thermal bottleneck that the 9700k will already have removed (for the most part, this is my understanding) i need higher minimums because i intend to cap frame rate across the board with RTSS in order to eliminate frame time variance stuttering with a frame rate cap of like 100fps. if i'm ensuring that my minimums are kept as close as possible to this then i suppose thats the best i can do while using gsync so that i can get the smoothest gameplay at the lowest latency for my price/performance level.
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i actually bought the 8700k and its still here in its box untouched but i changed my mind and i'm sending it back to amazon. the 9700k will be here tomorrow. my goal is for highest fps minimums possible while considering price/performance and i concluded that 9700k was worth it. its the slightly higher clock speed that does it for me + the fact that it will get better thermals being soldered which saves me from buying the deliding tool + liquid metal for eliminating the potential thermal bottleneck that the 9700k will already have removed (for the most part, this is my understanding) i need higher minimums because i intend to cap frame rate across the board with RTSS in order to eliminate frame time variance stuttering with a frame rate cap of like 100fps. if i'm ensuring that my minimums are kept as close as possible to this then i suppose thats the best i can do while using gsync so that i can get the smoothest gameplay at the lowest latency for my price/performance level.
k. It's your money. I think you should stay with the 8700K though. It has a lower price, it provides lower and more consistent frametimes, and it really doesn't even need to be overclocked. Then if you DO overclock it, you likely won't ever need to overclock it so high that you have to delid just to improve thermals.

Everything you just got done saying you want will be delivered by the 8700K, and then some.

What are your system's specs right now?


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