AMD Ryzen third gen build log. - Page 2 - Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

Forum Jump: 

AMD Ryzen third gen build log.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 03:56 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Dopamin3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 10,846
Rep: 1358 (Unique: 1025)
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
Alright. Making another cart. Anything you’d change?
Can't see what the RAM is but it's a terrible idea to run 4 x 4GB sticks. 4 sticks will stress the IMC more and it won't clock nearly is good, and 4GB for DDR4 sticks is basically a joke in 2019. Buy a 2 x 8GB kit- it will give you the same amount of RAM (16GB), overclock higher since two sticks stresses the IMC less and allow you to upgrade to 32GB if you ever need to down the road. Samsung B Die will work best and overclock the highest, but it's quite expensive at around $130 - $140 for a 16GB kit. You can find them by looking for 3200mhz CL14 @ 1.35v kits. If you don't want to spend as much but want something decent I would get something like this which is on sale for $65- https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288...82E16820313807


$150 for a 256GB SATA SSD? Are you nuts????

https://slickdeals.net/f/13084915-sa...archBarV2Algo1

You can get a Sabrent Rocket- high quality NVME SSD (which all AM4 boards have a slot for) with Phison E12 controller and Toshiba TLC memory, 5 year warranty upon registration. 1TB for $109.19 lol (other smaller sizes are found in the slickdeals thread)

I would spend $10 less on the hard drive and get a faster and arguably better one: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1682218...-773-_-Product

Ryzen Reborn
(15 items)
Alura :)
(11 items)
FreeNAS
(9 items)
CPU
2700X
Motherboard
ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI)
GPU
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX Vega 64
RAM
G.Skill TridentZ RGB F4-3200C14D-32GTZR
Hard Drive
Plextor PX-1TM8SeG
Hard Drive
2 x Samsung HD103SJ in RAID1
Hard Drive
Micron 1100 2TB SSD
Power Supply
SeaSonic Platinum SS-860XP2
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2
Case
Fractal Define C TG
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro x64
Monitor
Pixio PX277
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G5
Mousepad
XTRAC Ripper
CPU
i7 2700k
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
GPU
Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce OC
RAM
4 x 4GB G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz
Hard Drive
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 240GB and WD Black 1TB
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B1ST
Power Supply
Thermaltake Tough Power TP-750P 750W Gold
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor
2 x Acer 24 inch IPS
CPU
Intel Xeon E3-1245 v5
Motherboard
SuperMicro X11SSM-F-O C236
GPU
Integrated
RAM
2 x 16GB Kingston ValueRAM ECC KVR21E15D8/16
Hard Drive
5 x 8TB Seagate IronWolf Pro in ZF2 Array
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W Gold
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo
Case
Fractal Design Node 804
Operating System
FreeNAS 11
▲ hide details ▲


Dopamin3 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:00 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
RWBY FNDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 102
Rep: 5 (Unique: 3)
Quote: Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
Alright. Making another cart. Anything you’️d change?
Can't see what the RAM is but it's a terrible idea to run 4 x 4GB sticks. 4 sticks will stress the IMC more and it won't clock nearly is good, and 4GB for DDR4 sticks is basically a joke in 2019. Buy a 2 x 8GB kit- it will give you the same amount of RAM (16GB), overclock higher since two sticks stresses the IMC less and allow you to upgrade to 32GB if you ever need to down the road. Samsung B Die will work best and overclock the highest, but it's quite expensive at around $130 - $140 for a 16GB kit. You can find them by looking for 3200mhz CL14 @ 1.35v kits. If you don't want to spend as much but want something decent I would get something like this which is on sale for $65- https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288...82E16820313807


$150 for a 256GB SATA SSD? Are you nuts????

https://slickdeals.net/f/13084915-sa...archBarV2Algo1

You can get a Sabrent Rocket- high quality NVME SSD (which all AM4 boards have a slot for) with Phison E12 controller and Toshiba TLC memory, 5 year warranty upon registration. 1TB for $109.19 lol (other smaller sizes are found in the slickdeals thread)

I would spend $10 less on the hard drive and get a faster and arguably better one: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1682218...-773-_-Product
What’s a nVME?
RWBY FNDM is offline  
post #13 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:09 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Dopamin3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 10,846
Rep: 1358 (Unique: 1025)
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
What’s a nVME?
NVMe (non-volatile memory express) is a host controller interface and storage protocol created to accelerate the transfer of data between enterprise and client systems and solid-state drives (SSDs) over a computer's high-speed Peripheral Component Interconnect Express (PCIe) bus.

Basically the drive looks similar to a RAM stick, and it plugs into an M.2 slot on your motherboard. All modern platforms from Intel or AMD will support these types of drives (double check mobo manual, but all AM4 boards should have at least one). Rather than data traversing SATA lanes, it goes over PCIe. While a typical SATA SSD tops out at about 550MB/s for read and writes, the Sabrent Rocket does 3400MB/s read and 3000MB/s write making it a phenomenal value.

Even if you need a traditional SATA SSD there are much more cost effective options than the outdated 840 Pro.

Ryzen Reborn
(15 items)
Alura :)
(11 items)
FreeNAS
(9 items)
CPU
2700X
Motherboard
ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI)
GPU
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX Vega 64
RAM
G.Skill TridentZ RGB F4-3200C14D-32GTZR
Hard Drive
Plextor PX-1TM8SeG
Hard Drive
2 x Samsung HD103SJ in RAID1
Hard Drive
Micron 1100 2TB SSD
Power Supply
SeaSonic Platinum SS-860XP2
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2
Case
Fractal Define C TG
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro x64
Monitor
Pixio PX277
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G5
Mousepad
XTRAC Ripper
CPU
i7 2700k
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
GPU
Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce OC
RAM
4 x 4GB G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz
Hard Drive
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 240GB and WD Black 1TB
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B1ST
Power Supply
Thermaltake Tough Power TP-750P 750W Gold
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor
2 x Acer 24 inch IPS
CPU
Intel Xeon E3-1245 v5
Motherboard
SuperMicro X11SSM-F-O C236
GPU
Integrated
RAM
2 x 16GB Kingston ValueRAM ECC KVR21E15D8/16
Hard Drive
5 x 8TB Seagate IronWolf Pro in ZF2 Array
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W Gold
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo
Case
Fractal Design Node 804
Operating System
FreeNAS 11
▲ hide details ▲


Dopamin3 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #14 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:19 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
RWBY FNDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 102
Rep: 5 (Unique: 3)
Quote: Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
What’️s a nVME?
NVMe (non-volatile memory express) is a host controller interface and storage protocol created to accelerate the transfer of data between enterprise and client systems and solid-state drives (SSDs) over a computer's high-speed Peripheral Component Interconnect Express (PCIe) bus.

Basically the drive looks similar to a RAM stick, and it plugs into an M.2 slot on your motherboard. All modern platforms from Intel or AMD will support these types of drives (double check mobo manual, but all AM4 boards should have at least one). Rather than data traversing SATA lanes, it goes over PCIe. While a typical SATA SSD tops out at about 550MB/s for read and writes, the Sabrent Rocket does 3400MB/s read and 3000MB/s write making it a phenomenal value.

Even if you need a traditional SATA SSD there are much more cost effective options than the outdated 840 Pro.
I’m looking at a 250gb Mushkin Helix. $37. Just need it as a boot drive rewlly. These things are bad ass. Why weren’t they available when I had my Z68 platform...
RWBY FNDM is offline  
post #15 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:22 PM
⤷ αC
 
AlphaC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 11,104
Rep: 904 (Unique: 590)
OCN keeps eating my post but anyway ...

275R isn't a great airflow case , if you bought it already just keep note of it. It's worse than Corsair's prior 270R.

If you're looking at $60-70 cases the cases I'd look at are discounted Fractal Design Meshify C , Phanteks P350X (160mm CPU cooler height be aware), and Phanteks Enthoo Pro M. If the P400A comes out soon that is also a good contender as it is the same chassis as P350X with a fully mesh front panel.

As far as the PSU goes, if you already bought it then it probably isn't worth sending it back. However, the Seasonic Focus and Corsair RMx series are far better and come with 80 Plus gold efficiency , a longer warranty, better ripple characteristics, and fully modular cabling.

RAM: you shouldn't buy 4x4GB sticks for Ryzen because it's dual channel. In addition the daisy chain memory layout on X570 boards is not as conducive to overclocking 4 sticks.

SSD: 840 Pro is ancient, I'd look into the 500GB 970 Evo Plus NVMe drive or some other NvMe drive , even the Intel 660p or WD Black. 500GB/1TB Crucial MX500 or 860 Evo M.2 SATA based SSDs if on a budget. No need to buy a 2TB HDD if you go with one 500GB NvMe and one larger SATA SSD.

► Recommended GPU Projects: [email protected] , [email protected] (FP64) (AMD moreso) ► Other notable GPU projects: [email protected] (Nvidia), GPUGrid (Nvidia) ► Project list



Last edited by AlphaC; 06-26-2019 at 04:29 PM.
AlphaC is offline  
post #16 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:27 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
RWBY FNDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 102
Rep: 5 (Unique: 3)
Quote: Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post
OCN keeps eating my post but anyway ...


275R isn't a great airflow case , if you bought it already just keep note of it. It's worse than Corsair's prior 270R.

If you're looking at $60-70 cases the cases I'd look at are discounted Fractal Design Meshify C , Phanteks P350X (160mm CPU cooler height be aware), and Phanteks Enthoo Pro M. If the P400A comes out soon that is also a good contender as it is the same chassis as P350X with a fully mesh front panel.


As far as the PSU goes, if you already bought it then it probably isn't worth sending it back. However, the Seasonic Focus and Corsair RMx series are far better and come with 80 Plus gold efficiency , a longer warranty, better ripple characteristics, and fully modular cabling.



RAM: you shouldn't buy 4x4GB sticks for Ryzen because it's dual channel. In addition the daisy chain memory layout on X570 boards is



SSD: 840 Pro is ancient, I'd look into the 500GB 970 Evo Plus NVMe drive or some other NvMe drive , even the Intel 660p or WD Black. 500GB/1TB Crucial MX500 or 860 Evo M.2 SATA based SSDs if on a budget. No need to buy a 2TB HDD if you go with one 500GB NvMe and one larger SATA SSD.
Already got the case and PSU. Here’s what it’s my cart now.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	B04FE869-606A-4049-90C3-ED365A036D89_1561591658552.png
Views:	23
Size:	1.08 MB
ID:	276624  

RWBY FNDM is offline  
post #17 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 04:32 PM - Thread Starter
New to Overclock.net
 
RWBY FNDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 102
Rep: 5 (Unique: 3)
Also, what about cooling? I had the Hyper 212 Evo+ on my old 2500K, and that bastard only got 64c load at 4.6ghz. I will not hesitate to purchase it again. That thing is incredible for the price
RWBY FNDM is offline  
post #18 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 06:11 PM
New to Overclock.net
 
Dopamin3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 10,846
Rep: 1358 (Unique: 1025)
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
Also, what about cooling? I had the Hyper 212 Evo+ on my old 2500K, and that bastard only got 64c load at 4.6ghz. I will not hesitate to purchase it again. That thing is incredible for the price
2500k was 4 core / 4 thread. With Zen 2 you're probably going to be getting at least a 6 core / 12 thread or 8 core / 16 thread. It is not going to run as cool, especially if you are overclocking. The Scythe Mugen 5 would handle a 6 core with a decent OC. If you want a huge OC on the 6 core or are considering an 8 core I would do the Noctua NH-D15S.

Also the Sabrent Rocket I linked is cheaper ($29.99 vs $37.99), faster (3090/1050 vs 2010/1250), and has a longer warranty (5 years vs 3 years). I know it's not on Newegg, it's on Amazon but it's still the much better choice.

Ninja edit: whatever onboard sound will likely be better than an Asus Xonar sound card. Skip that....

edit again: skip both the Mushkin Helix and the Sabrent Rocket and get this instead: https://www.newegg.com/hp-ex920-256g...9900470a240612

Ryzen Reborn
(15 items)
Alura :)
(11 items)
FreeNAS
(9 items)
CPU
2700X
Motherboard
ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI)
GPU
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX Vega 64
RAM
G.Skill TridentZ RGB F4-3200C14D-32GTZR
Hard Drive
Plextor PX-1TM8SeG
Hard Drive
2 x Samsung HD103SJ in RAID1
Hard Drive
Micron 1100 2TB SSD
Power Supply
SeaSonic Platinum SS-860XP2
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2
Case
Fractal Define C TG
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro x64
Monitor
Pixio PX277
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G5
Mousepad
XTRAC Ripper
CPU
i7 2700k
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
GPU
Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce OC
RAM
4 x 4GB G.Skill Sniper 1866mhz
Hard Drive
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 240GB and WD Black 1TB
Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B1ST
Power Supply
Thermaltake Tough Power TP-750P 750W Gold
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor
2 x Acer 24 inch IPS
CPU
Intel Xeon E3-1245 v5
Motherboard
SuperMicro X11SSM-F-O C236
GPU
Integrated
RAM
2 x 16GB Kingston ValueRAM ECC KVR21E15D8/16
Hard Drive
5 x 8TB Seagate IronWolf Pro in ZF2 Array
Power Supply
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W Gold
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo
Case
Fractal Design Node 804
Operating System
FreeNAS 11
▲ hide details ▲



Last edited by Dopamin3; 06-26-2019 at 06:18 PM.
Dopamin3 is offline  
post #19 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 06:37 PM
⤷ αC
 
AlphaC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 11,104
Rep: 904 (Unique: 590)
Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B or Thermalright ARO-M14G (AMD only) / Macho Rev B (bigger) are good choices at around $45ish , lower than that I would just keep the 212 Evo. For $10-15 more than 212 Evo costs you get at least 5 degree drop in temperatures and a higher quality fan that isn't cheap sleeve bearings. I would lean toward Mugen 5 if you're in the USA since Thermaalright distribution channels in USA are shoddy. What's also great about the Mugen 5 is that it is 155mm height so it fits in just about every modern ATX sized case. The Macho is 162mm height.



If you were buying Ryzen 7 the Wraith Prism is actually pretty decent as it's a 4 heatpipe cooler with a ~ 90-100mm fan but the Spire on Ryen 5 isn't designed with as much power in mind.

https://www.amazon.com/Mugen-Rev-CPU.../dp/B06ZYB8K77
https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0004-00075

Macho rev B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PKJ21LW/

Those will put your 212 to shame, as they have much more fin area and 6 heatpipes.
They've been tested by computerbase on overclocked Ryzen 7 CPUs in the past and performed within degrees of closed loop water and top tier air such as the Noctua dual tower NH-D15.
(see https://www.computerbase.de/2019-05/...ldruckpegel-oc , https://www.computerbase.de/forum/th...ation.1732991/ , https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/778...j-30-en-40-dbn)

If you are looking at air coolers, prioritize heatpipes and fin area. When looking at reviews keep in mind fan speed.



If you weren't using 275R case with 170mm height limit then I would also look at the $50 Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power which is among the strongest single towers ever made when you account for fan speed.

► Recommended GPU Projects: [email protected] , [email protected] (FP64) (AMD moreso) ► Other notable GPU projects: [email protected] (Nvidia), GPUGrid (Nvidia) ► Project list



Last edited by AlphaC; 06-26-2019 at 06:40 PM.
AlphaC is offline  
post #20 of 62 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 12:29 AM
Senior OCN Member
 
shilka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Denmark
Posts: 37,978
Rep: 2737 (Unique: 1626)
Quote: Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM View Post
Already bought it. What’s wrong with it?
Return it and get something better its not all that great and there is a reason why its so cheap

Second the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo is not worth buying anymore and its way overhyped
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html

Third if you are going to use the PC for gaming only and nothing else dont bother with NVME its only a single second faster when it comes to game loading times

And last the Samsung 840 was replaced by the 850 which was then replaced by the 860 so get an 860 not the 840 its way outdated

Seravee
(30 items)
CPU
Intel Core I7 6850K
Motherboard
Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming
GPU
MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
RAM
Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo 500 GB
Hard Drive
Corsair Force MP510 1,92 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 14 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf 12 TB
Hard Drive
WD Ultrastar DC HC530 14 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 12 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf Pro 16 TB
Optical Drive
LG CH12NS30
Power Supply
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750 watt
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass
Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 bit
Monitor
Asus PG279Q
Monitor
LG 55C8 OLED TV
Keyboard
Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 with Cherry MX Silent
Mouse
Roccat Kone EMP
Mouse
HyperX Fury S XL
Audio
Sennheiser HD 598
Audio
Onkyo TX NR646
Audio
Dali Opticon Vokal
Audio
x2 Dali Opticon 2
Audio
x2 Dali Opticon 1
Audio
Dali E12 F Subwoofer
Audio
Sennheiser HD-599
Other
CableMod 30 CM Magnetic Red LED strip
▲ hide details ▲

Last edited by shilka; 06-27-2019 at 12:40 AM.
shilka is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off