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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 11:18 AM - Thread Starter
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New gaming PC build, nothing too special, $1200ish budget

Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted here. As you can see from my signature my PC is pretty old. Even though it works OK for the gaming I do it has many issues so it is time to build a new one, in the $1k-$1200 range

Right now I game in 1080p and I like my monitor setup so I don't plan on changing it soon, maybe 4k in the future. I don't plan on needing to use my PC for VR anytime soon either. Just basic gaming/use computer. I do like playing newer games on high graphics at 1080p, so that shouldn't be demanding. I don't stream and no video editing so I'm not a power gamer with high demands. Looking forward to several new games (the new Wolfenstein, Borderlands 3, Dying Light 2, Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2, Wasteland 3, Mech Warrior 5).

I started researching this morning and I'm overwhelmed by all the parts these days and where to start. I'd like to stay with Intel and nVidia. Totally overwhelmed on which direction to go with CPU and GPU in that price range.

I did read that Mini ITX cases, such as the Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX are getting more popular. I like the idea of a smaller case, but is that more trouble than it's worth?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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ASRock Z77 Extreme4
GPU
Asus GTX 970
RAM
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Hard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB
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LG DVD-RW
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Cooler Master Hyper 212
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-10-2019, 11:45 AM
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($181.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($123.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP300 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($53.85 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB MINI Video Card ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX TG Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1207.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-10 14:41 EDT-0400


or AMD:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($123.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP300 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($53.85 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB MINI Video Card ($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX TG Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1285.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-10 14:44 EDT-0400


AMD system is a far better rig, though. Even if you can't spend a penny over $1200 and drop the 3700X to a 3600 it's still a better system and comes out cheaper.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
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Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
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Corsair H115i Pro
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Fractal Design Meshify S2
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Windows 10 Professional
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MX Linux
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Rii RKM709 Wireless
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Logitech M510
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i7 860
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Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
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EVGA GTX 950 2GB
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Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
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Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
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Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
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Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
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Here is what I have come up with so far, I decided to go micro-atx instead of mini-itx:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YHXPbX

CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B365M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper X 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($151.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $869.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-12 13:16 EDT-0400

A few questions:
RAM:
With the RAM should I go with PC3000, 3200, or 3600? Will it make a difference in working with my other system specs?

Motherboard:
As far as motherboards I was so overwhelmed I wasn't sure what to choose. Is the ASRock one I picked a good option? Or should I consider a different micro-atx motherboard

PSU:
I plan on keeping my existing power supply with is a Seasonic Gold x750. It's 7 years old but still seems to work fine.

Cooling:
Will my existing 212 Evo work? Or with the 9600k should I consider something like a black rock 4?

System
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CPU
i5-3570k
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4
GPU
Asus GTX 970
RAM
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Hard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB
Optical Drive
LG DVD-RW
Power Supply
SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212
Case
Corsair Carbide 300R
Operating System
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 08-12-2019, 10:19 AM
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you picked a K SKU CPU and a motherboard with a chipset that can't OC.

the only mATX Z390 boards worth considering are the Asus ROG Maximus XI Gene and the Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
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AsRock Z390 Taichi
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MSI GTX 1080 Ti
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G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
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HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
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Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Sandisk Ultra II 480GB SSD
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Hard Drive
Western Digital EZRZ 3TB
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU
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Dell E2311H
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CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S
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Logitech G502
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SMSL SA50 + FiiO E10K
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Micca RB42
Audio
Polk Audio PSW111
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
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Philips SHP9500S
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Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
GPU
Iris Plus 655
RAM
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400
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Dierka K1 120GB
Hard Drive
ADATA SU800 128GB M.2
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional
Operating System
MX Linux
Keyboard
Rii RKM709 Wireless
Mouse
Logitech M510
CPU
i7 860
Motherboard
Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
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EVGA GTX 950 2GB
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Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
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Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
Hard Drive
Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
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Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
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If all you are going to use the PC for is gaming dont bother with an NVME drive its only a single second faster at most when it comes to game load times

If you still want an NVME drive despite that there are many drives with the Toshiba E12 controller that are almost as fast and way cheaper than the overhyped and overpriced Samsung drives
https://www.overclock.net/forum/355-...2-toshiba.html

And last the Cooler Master Hyper 212 is ancient and it was not all that good when it came out and today it flat out sucks and there are many cheap coolers that are far better and more quiet
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html

Edit: i assume you meant the Be Quiet Dark Rock when you said Black Rock?

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Edit: i assume you meant the Be Quiet Dark Rock when you said Black Rock?
Yes! thank you.

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GPU
Asus GTX 970
RAM
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Hard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB
Optical Drive
LG DVD-RW
Power Supply
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Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
you picked a K SKU CPU and a motherboard with a chipset that can't OC.

the only mATX Z390 boards worth considering are the Asus ROG Maximus XI Gene and the Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming.
Thanks for the info. Are those really my only 2 options? The Asus ROG Maximus XI Gene look like it's NLA
EDIT: also I totally wouldn't mind switching chipsets, whatever mATX board compatible with a 9600k is best

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Asus GTX 970
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G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Hard Drive
Samsung 830 256GB
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K SKUs support whatever RAM your motherboard supports. Locked SKUs only support 2666.

If anything you should be looking to upgrade the CPU and not downgrade it (or better yet, go AMD).

A locked 6 core 6 thread SKU when there are 16 core/32 thread consumer SKUs a month away (and when a 24 tread consumer CPU is already on the market) is going to kill any kind of longevity the system has. It's going to be under spec'd the day you put it together.

Intel i9 9900K Coffee Lake @ X8 5309mhz (+47.5%)
AMD FX-8320 Vishera @ X4 5022mhz (+43.5%)
Intel i5 4690K Haswell @ X4 5013mhz (+43.2%)
AMD X4 960T Zosma @ X6 4870mhz (+62.3%)
Intel i7 6700 Skylake @ X4 4709mhz (+38.5%)
Intel i5 6400 Skylake @ X4 4588mhz (+69.9%)
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(10 items)
CPU
i9 9900K
Motherboard
AsRock Z390 Taichi
GPU
MSI GTX 1080 Ti
RAM
G.Skill DDR4 4133 32GB
Hard Drive
Mushkin Pilot NVMe 1TB
Hard Drive
HP EX950 NVMe 2TB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1TB
Hard Drive
Sandisk Ultra II 480GB SSD
Hard Drive
Toshiba X300 5TB
Hard Drive
Western Digital EZRZ 3TB
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750w
Cooling
Corsair H115i Pro
Case
Fractal Design Meshify S2
Operating System
Windows 10 Education x64
Monitor
Acer XF270HU
Monitor
Dell E2311H
Keyboard
CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S
Mouse
Logitech G502
Audio
SMSL SA50 + FiiO E10K
Audio
Micca RB42
Audio
Polk Audio PSW111
Audio
Philips Fidelio X2
Audio
Philips SHP9500S
Audio
Audio Technica ATH-M50X
CPU
i3 8109U
Motherboard
Intel NUC8i3BEH
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Iris Plus 655
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Kingston 8GB DDR4 2400
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Dierka K1 120GB
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ADATA SU800 128GB M.2
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MX Linux
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Rii RKM709 Wireless
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Logitech M510
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i7 860
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Advantech AIMB 280 ITX
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EVGA GTX 950 2GB
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Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333
Hard Drive
Seagate Momentus 2.5" 500GB
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Western Digital Blue 2.5" 320GB
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Silverstone SFX-L Gold 500w
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