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Project 4K Couch

I,ve been out of the game for a good 4 years now, things have changed, and its now time to get back into some serious gaming.
My last gaming rig was an 1100t paired with a 7970. So im hoping for some serious performance increases with this new Ryzen build.

The idea behind the build is all about comfort, built to power the Samsung RU7100 55" 4K TV. I have a budget of £1200 ish, tv is already owned.
This is what i've come up with so far based on my budget. Bare in mind i don't play AAA titles too much, here's a few of the games i play and games looking to play in the future.

Grid Autosport
Project Cars 2
World of war planes
COD Modern Warfare
GTA 5
GTA 6....
Microsoft flight sim

Here's the proposed build.

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X............................................. ...£194.98
MSI X470 GAMING PLUS..........................................£10 4.98
G.Skill Trident Z 16GB Kit DDR4 3200MHz cl16...........£80.43
Noctua NH-D15............................................... .......£77.99
Riotoro Enigma G2 - PSU 850W +80 Gold..................£76.98
Gigabyte RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB GAMING OC 3X..........£479.98
WD Green M.2 SSD 120GB Boot drive........................£20.49
WD Blue 500GB 3D NAND SSD M.2 2280 Games.........£49.98
Seagate BarraCuda 2TB...........................................£51 .00

PC-T60B TEST BENCH............................................. .£86.99
Various other parts, fans, keyboard,
thermal paste, game pad.

Total build cost.............................................. ..........£1240

From the research i've done the 2070 super wont give me full 60 fps in all the games but will be more than enough in the older ones, looking at youtube reviews a single 2070 super will average around 30 to 50 fps in most AAA titles at 4K, but adding another 2070 super will scale in the 50% to 80% range, and all the games i play atm do scale well over NVLink Bridge. A Lot of people say sli is dead, but NVLink Bridge is certainly not. here's a Youtube video that proves it.
For the same price as a 2080ti, 2x 2070 supers scale around 20% to 30% higher.

Looking at psu calculators i think the 850watt should be more than enough with some head room for overclocking...... RIP electricity bill. The only slight concern i have is whether the 3600x will bottleneck 2x 2070 supers, but saying that, in all the reviews of the 3600x paired with a 2080 ti i've seen the 3600x is sat at around 30% to 40% utilization, also not sure how the 2070 supers will react to being in pci-e 8x mode on the x470 mobo.

What do people think? all thoughts welcome.
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All PSU calculators will overstate numbers by at least 28% so 850 watt is way overkill and a 750 watt would be enough
Pick another PSU rather than buying some no name PSU with a lot of wattage buy a smaller but a known quality unit

Edit: also note that the motherboard you picked might not work with a 3600x out if the box you might need to update the BIOS and you cant do that unless you have an older CPU
The MSI boards with the Max in the name have updated BIOS that will work with the 3000 series so pick a Max board instead

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Asrock x570 Taichi
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Seagate IronWolf Pro ST16000NE000
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Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750 watt
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Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
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Phanteks Luxe 2
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
All PSU calculators will overstate numbers by at least 28% so 850 watt is way overkill and a 750 watt would be enough
Pick another PSU rather than buying some no name PSU with a lot of wattage buy a smaller but a known quality unit

Edit: also note that the motherboard you picked might not work with a 3600x out if the box you might need to update the BIOS and you cant do that unless you have an older CPU
The MSI boards with the Max in the name have updated BIOS that will work with the 3000 series so pick a Max board instead
I figured the psu calculators will overcompensate, but bare in mind i'll be be enabling all core boost in bios for the 3600x, and overclocking the 2070 supers to 2080 super performance. i think 150 watt or so of head room will serve me well when it comes to reliability. i hear what your saying about the psu brand, from the reviews the voltages on this psu are rock solid stable, but yer your right buy something proven.

The msi 470x come's pre updated to the july bios, i double checked buy calling my supplier, also saying that i can borrow a cpu of a friend if needed.
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Sory it seems like i misread the name of the PSU and what you picked is actually a Seasonic rebrand so never mind keep it its pretty good

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Seagate IronWolf Pro ST14000NE0008
Hard Drive
Seagate Ironwolf ST12000VN0007
Hard Drive
Seagate IronWolf Pro ST12000NE0007
Hard Drive
WD Ultrastar DC HC530 14 TB
Hard Drive
Seagate IronWolf Pro ST16000NE000
Power Supply
Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750 watt
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
Case
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Windows 10 Home 64 bit
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Asus PG279Q
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Mouse
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Onkyo TX NR646
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RHA L1 Dacamp
Audio
Sennheiser HD 599
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Dali E 12 F
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2x Dali Opticon 1
Audio
2x Dali Opticon 2
Audio
Dali Opticon Vokal
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Vegas MBA 60cm LED Strip
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Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming
GPU
GTX 1060 3 GB wth blower style cooler
RAM
Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz
Hard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo 500 GB
Hard Drive
Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB
Optical Drive
LG CH12NS30
Power Supply
Seasonic Focus GX 650 watt
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass
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Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 bit
Monitor
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Keyboard
Corsair Gaming STRAFE RGB Mechanical
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
All PSU calculators will overstate numbers by at least 28% so 850 watt is way overkill and a 750 watt would be enough
Pick another PSU rather than buying some no name PSU with a lot of wattage buy a smaller but a known quality unit

Edit: also note that the motherboard you picked might not work with a 3600x out if the box you might need to update the BIOS and you cant do that unless you have an older CPU
The MSI boards with the Max in the name have updated BIOS that will work with the 3000 series so pick a Max board instead
How does this psu sound

EVGA 850 B3 850W Modular 80+
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Sory it seems like i misread the name of the PSU and what you picked is actually a Seasonic rebrand so never mind keep it its pretty good
Oh thats cool, i herd good things about it. thanks for the confirmation. knowing its a seasonic rebrand makes me feel even better about the choice.
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The B3 is not all that great so never mind keep the Riotoro Enigma G2 its far better
Most of the PSU´s EVGA sells these days are not very good there are some exceptions like the old G2/P2/T2 and a few others but there is also a ton of rubbish

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Hard Drive
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Interesting note there on NVlink, I always liked the SLI option down the road. I did some searching and it doesn't look as dead as some say it is. I guess its very game dependent.

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Interesting note there on NVlink, I always liked the SLI option down the road. I did some searching and it doesn't look as dead as some say it is. I guess its very game dependent.
very game dependent, and less than one title a year drops with genuine support.

many titles have "hacked" in support, that does little to actually increase performance, but it LOOKS like its working, so people go with it.

currently, GPUs with NVLink still use "SLI" bits/coding from what I understand.

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[QUOTE=skupples;28308756]very game dependent, and less than one title a year drops with genuine support.

many titles have "hacked" in support, that does little to actually increase performance, but it LOOKS like its working, so people go with it.

currently, GPUs with NVLink still use "SLI" bits/coding from what I understand.[/QUOTE

Check out some benchmarks, they really do scale, some games scale almost 95% and the worst scale in the 30% range.
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