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Is this a good phone for the money?

Is this a good phone for the money?
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For the price it sounds like a good phone. I like the 6 GiB of RAM. It's too bad it doesn't have a replaceable battery. It doesn't specify what kind of headphone jack it has.
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Those specs at that price is a good deal. I have no idea how good the phone itself is.

Flagship phones (those are flagship specs) haven't had removable batteries in years. And it says it has a Type-C port, no mention of a 3.5mm port.

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Is this a good phone for the money?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...chweb201603_52
Yep, sounds like a great deal, just make sure it has all the bands you need.

And one issue I have with this china domestic phones with "global roms" is that they're loaded by the seller, which is kinda janky. I'd personally get a chinese sealed version and load my own rom on it, but that quite a hassle too.
Edit:Unless I'm wrong and that these come with a global rom from the factory? You might want to ask the seller whether it's factory sealed.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post
Yep, sounds like a great deal, just make sure it has all the bands you need.

And one issue I have with this china domestic phones with "global roms" is that they're loaded by the seller, which is kinda janky. I'd personally get a chinese sealed version and load my own rom on it, but that quite a hassle too.
Edit:Unless I'm wrong and that these come with a global rom from the factory? You might want to ask the seller whether it's factory sealed.
How can you load your own ROM on a phone? Is that like rooting a phone?

If you don't have a headphone jack on a phone how do you hook it up to an external amp? I frequently use my phone to stream music to my amp.
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How can you load your own ROM on a phone? Is that like rooting a phone?

If you don't have a headphone jack on a phone how do you hook it up to an external amp? I frequently use my phone to stream music to my amp.
similar but different to rooting a phone, you're basically reinstalling an OS.

USB-C supports audio passthrough, you need an adapter cable to plug jack plugs.


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For the price it sounds like a good phone. I like the 6 GiB of RAM. It's too bad it doesn't have a replaceable battery. It doesn't specify what kind of headphone jack it has.
Given it sports a Snapdragon 855,performance should be good,As for Lenovo's ZUI,this is my first lenovo phone,don't know how good or terrible ZUI will turn out,also if it comes with a custom rom from seller,I wiil flash it factory original rom


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Given it sports a Snapdragon 855,performance should be good,As for Lenovo's ZUI,this is my first lenovo phone,don't know how good or terrible ZUI will turn out,also if it comes with a custom rom from seller,I wiil flash it factory original rom
Is this because you can't trust a non-factory ROM?
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Is this because you can't trust a non-factory ROM?
Pretty much, you can modify a rom to do a bunch of malicious things.

I have no problem with public custom roms I install myself, because their code is public and people will find out if it has been messed with in a malicious way.

But you have no way of knowing what rom this seller installed and whether it has been maliciously modified by either the seller or the person that created said unknown rom in the first place.
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Problem with getting phones direct from Asia nowadays is you're gonna get taxed + customs at least in EU since the limit for importing without tax and customs is so low phones don't fit that limit. So at +25-30% price + shipping... may as well buy locally a Xiaomi etc. if you can't find Lenovo being sold.
You would have to be in a country where you can import and not get taxed up to a high limit to make buying phones from Asia sensible.

Done it before, would not do it again, not nowadays when these cheaper brands are everywhere in shops even the smaller ones can be found. Makes no sense to bother importing individually, potentially get scammed, have no warranty, deal with customs, etc.

Updating Android and rooting it is a royal pain especially on Chinese phones that use Mediatek, you're almost never gonna root it unless you speak Chinese and manage to find a tool that can and isn't riddled with viruses/etc. Getting official OS updates, forget it. Installing custom ROM? Yeah if you can root it and do all the regular advanced things, you can actually find or make a custom ROM yourself for that specific hardware, Chinese phones don't get custom ROMs, it's often the popular western sold big brands phones that do, ...
Lenovo is kind of mudding the waters, it's a big brand but some of their products are hard to find anymore in EU etc.
If we are talking a pure China made, Asia only sold phone, good luck doing anything with it, what you're gonna get is what you're gonna have. No root, no custom ROMs, and almost no chance to find tools to fiddle with it, no updates. But it can come with a clean Android unlike the big brands sold in west riddled with customized crappy UIs and other issues.

No headphone jack? Pass.

Removable battery? Yeah they stopped offering that on almost any phone years ago now. I still have one and it's an old Andoird now. They don't want people buying batteries and keeping phones for a long time ==> they don't release updates to make phones obsolete in software support and glue batteries into a glued shell so that you risk breaking things or need a ton of hassle to replace a stupid battery when on my phone it can be done in 15 seconds.
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