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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 04-03-2020, 10:26 AM - Thread Starter
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Back from the dead

I've been a member for a long time, joined up back when I did my first build back in 2009... 2nd build shortly after was a watercooled i7 setup...

Haven't built one since... career got in the way. But now it looks like it's a great time to be a PC gamer (esp. with VR) and I find myself with a lot more extra time at this point in my career.

I spec'd out this "budget" build.. looking for someone who's been in-the-know more recently than I to give it a quick look and make sure I'm not messing anything up too bad... Planning to start with the stock cooler and light OC because long-term I'll probably move to water and a larger case.

Any advice would be appreciated (and yes, I'm doing the black/white theme).

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You dont need a 750 watt PSU for that build and the Seasonic Focus GX 650 watt is more than $20 cheaper and just as good if not better
The SSD is only really faster on paper and in synthetic benchmarks and you can save as much as $75 if you pick the Corsair Force MP510 instead

Take the saved money and spend it on something like a Noctua NH-D15

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That's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for! Thank you.
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 04-03-2020, 11:07 AM
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That Asus PRIME X570-P is about equal in quality as B450 Tomahawk Boards with interestingly now on offer fine looking price
What was the exact reason you want to go X570 and PCIe 4.0 ?
The 5700 XT wont be bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 x16
Is 1550 your max budget or ?

You might be able to fit a 2070 Super inside if we safe on a lot of parts
Testmade one , if 1500 is your budget - this looks to be just fine, or 1550 with some good fans 25 bucks each
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B7ppNq

The PSU still is far to overkill, but it's on offer with the same price as the 650 version
550W plat should still work just fine with a 3700X and 2070 Super even with a bit of OC headroom on the GPU
Expected it to pull around 410W if both are running 100% on stock - finetuned settings likely would drop it to 360W
Sadly that 15$ more for the efficient plat unit - that's up to you if you can safe on electricity that way with a more efficient unit

TridentZ Neo 16-19-19 are Hynix Kits
Hard to find pure dual rank b-dies under this price range, for this size
soo the less stressing new micron kits are preferable right now - buyable as black, pure white or RGB
Board is about the least i would pick with X570 , but downgrading to B450 is tempting ~ just prices are still similar soo why not

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I'd like to keep it ~1500-1700 (current cart is around 1690). I'm not married to this setup, I did the best I could based on what I could teach myself over the past few days... (because reading is good and I hate when people ask for help without researching themselves). I'll be gaming on 1440 and possibly adding VR down the road. No other major uses. I picked that MOBO/Chip combo because it was a combo deal on Newegg for $520. I debated about going down to a 3600. Saves $150. GPU i just know the 5700xt pairs well with the ryzen.

PSU is overkill but leaves room for changes down the road (plus the white sleeved cables saves me a headache of doing that myself).

I am trying to get the most bang (both aesthetically and performance) for the $.

Open to all suggestions.

Made a few changes based on feedback:
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Samsung NVME drives are overpriced and the Corsair Force MP510 is almost as fast and $25 cheaper

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^ +1 on this, and the VPN100 is comparable to a 970 Pro , be it TBW or just used controller
Samsung is overpriced these days
The VPN100 even came with a thick heatspreader where this board has non
Not that it does matter , but it's something to consider
Don't stay on these rams, even when asthetics are a point
if you like white, there are white crucial ballistix too, pure white 32gb kits for normal prices
There was once a white with RGB , but i think it got sold out already

Overall strongly suggest not to have the struggle with 16-19 hynix kits
You can get far easier overclockers for about the same pricetag
If you know the price on the noctua , please add a custom price soo the end pricetag represents reality

Oh actually the white RGB ones are still there
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FxT...2k16g36c16u4wl
or non RGB
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y8...l2k16g36c16u4w
The hardest part of decision is
When you are going for aesthetics then anyways
This are the same price as the 32gb ballistix and are good binned guaranteed b-dies
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH...00c16d-32gtzrc

Soo idk , decide
EDIT:
Speaking of aesthetics first
This also exist in the same price-range and aren't as horrible OCers, as these 16-19 hynix kits
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sNr...600c19d-32gtrs
Likely samsung D-Die or new A-die
Hynix doesn't run such timings

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10-4 I will swap for the ballistix. Back in the day Gskill was always my go-to so I was going with that just based on old knowledge. I do plan on getting the corsair SSD but the partpicker site doesn't have the model so I subbed in the samsung as a filler.
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10-4 I will swap for the ballistix. Back in the day Gskill was always my go-to so I was going with that just based on old knowledge. I do plan on getting the corsair SSD but the partpicker site doesn't have the model so I subbed in the samsung as a filler.
The issue current days is, not only is every IC under <3600MT/s randomized
But even when manufactures try to advertise a fixed IC , the PCB can be random and at the end the main culprit of high clock issues
not to forget A2 or B2 (dual rank) PCBs don't run well on cheap boards
On some kits you clearly know what you'll get
But on others, even tho it was reviewed - you can get within the same model number a different IC

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I guess something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hx4VCL

Can be tweaked, I am not really a fan of that cooler but its a decent one + the case you can change to anything you like, You can save 35$ by going the non-wifi route with the mobo.

The ram is E-Die decent ram, and the reason I took the 3800 instead of the 3700 as its generally worth it when going above a specific budget.



EDIT: I just saw your second link, Yes the D15 is a better option but no where to be found these days + would recommend the E-Die ram or even getting some viper steels instead of the regular NEOs (There are two NEOs one that is Hynix and one that is B-DIE) the B-die are nice but the hynix are sub-par at best.

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