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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-04-2019, 12:15 PM - Thread Starter
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SSD Setup for new system. Suggestions?

Hey guys.

I'm currently in the process of upgrading my PC from an FX-8320 to a Ryzen 7. With this, it will be the first time I will be using SSDs. Yeah yeah I'm late to the party, I know. In any case. Considering my current Windows 10 installation is a mess, since everything is on my main hard drive (games, programs, music, files), the 2TB SSHD drive I'm using is almost full... I wanted to refrain from doing a full fresh installation, but that's not in the cards if I'm switching to an SSD, because 2TB SSDs are way too expensive still.

What I want to do is;
1) Back up my games so that I don't have to redownload all of them. This includes games from Steam, Origin, UPlay, Epic Games Launcher and a few more.
2) Have my games and Windows on an SSD for fast loading times
3) Make the most efficient use of my current hard disk drives, which will carry over into the new system.

I will be getting an Asrock X470 Taichi, and for the SSD(s) I'm thinking of getting the Samsung 970 EVO, EVO Plus, or PRO. My current drives, which are a 2TB Seagate SSHD (currently the boot drive), and 2TB WD Blue drive used as backup and for files. I will be using it as a general purpose PC. That includes browsing, video editing, gaming, mining (both CPU & GPU)... Practically everything.

Now the questions...
a) What size SSD do you recommend for Windows 10, without having to worry about space? It might have some software on it, but nothing major, since the largest files like games will be installed somewhere else.
b) What size SSD do you recommend for games?
c) Would you pick a separate SSD for Windows and the games, or would you use a single SSD (Max 1TB) and partition it in two instead?
d) What would be the fastest way to transfer the games from the existing HDD to the SSD?
e) Would you recommend the use of StoreMI?
f) What would you use the SSHD for, now that the system will include SSDs? I was thinking of using that as the mining drive for storing the blockchain data of multiple coins, but I'm not sure if it will be really useful. Maybe smaller software installations?

Thanks for your suggestions.
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-04-2019, 12:20 PM
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20-24gb is enough room for windows 10.


If you are only looking for a boot drive with some programs installed onto it, a 120gb ssd is DIRT cheap and easily enough space.


HOWEVER, the size of the SSD does indeed play a small role in performance potential.


Perhaps springing for a 240/256gb ssd should be your answer.


bestbuy sells PNY 120gb ssd's for under $30 last time I checked. Actually, checked while typing, $21 on sale
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a) the biggest you can afford
b) the biggest you can afford
c) whatever you like. partitions don't help you if the drive fails, data spread across multiple drives protects somewhat against a dead drive. past that it's personal preference.
d) copy/paste?
e) I don't use it/don't know enough about it.
f) for a system backup. make a system image and save it on the HDD. do a backup regularly and when you inevitably need to do a clean Windows install just do a restore.

The only thing I use an HDD for nowadays is storing music and movies and for a backup of each of my drives. Life is too short to wait on a HDD

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All of my rigs run a small SSD for os and then Hdd's for mass storage. Now I also run a pair of 2.5in SSD's in raid0 for a fast game drive on games I play the most. I would keep the OS on it's own drive. Also not all games take advantage of super fast storage but having an option for those that do helps. I listed how one of my current setups is run and It's awesome. i also had the X470 Taichi with a 2700x and had it setup close to the same way.



Example of one of my current setups.



RD400 128gb Nvme for Boot


2x Adata SU800 256gb in raid0 most played games



2x 1TB WD blue in Raid0 for all other games


2tb mass storage drive.
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SSD's are pretty cheap now so no need to get a small one. Personally I use an m.2 Samsung 256gb SSD that I got used for $60 as my main drive, then I have an older sata 480GB ssd that I use to hold games that I play often enough to want them on an SSD. Then I have one HDD for all the rest of my games, ones I want installed but don't need on an SSD, and one more HDD for bulk storage.


FYI you can clone your main drive onto a smaller SSD if you just clear up some space first. You can resize the partition, and most cloning software will do this for you. I prefer Macrium Reflect.


If you want to keep things simple just get a 500gb-1tb sata SSD. m.2/nvme is cool but the shift from an HDD to an SSD was way better than going from an SSD to an NVME drive.

I should add that I changed the default locations of some of my user folders so things like music, pictures, and downloads default to the D drive. Something that's definitely good to do if your C drive is a small SSD.
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NVME drives are not faster or better in any way for normal OS use and gaming compared to a drive using the older AHCI protcole



Unless you will be working or editing on the machine there is no reason to buy a 970 or any other NVME drive its a waste of time and money
The Samsung 860 Evo is a better option and its cheaper and it comes in M.2 form if that is really a must, the Crucial MX500 is another option

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
NVME drives are not faster or better in any way for normal OS use and gaming compared to a drive using the older AHCI protcole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDQaE9N-eo&t=


Unless you will be working or editing on the machine there is no reason to buy a 970 or any other NVME drive its a waste of time and money
The Samsung 860 Evo is a better option and its cheaper and it comes in M.2 form if that is really a must, the Crucial MX500 is another option

That Z5K1 HDD in that video is a joke. Any half decent 3.5 HDD will walk all over that thing.



But honestly I would totally go for a large SSD for the OS drive. Don't get anything less than 256gb. SSD's are stupid cheap these days. One could easily go without a HDD in their system no problem.

Hell I'm going to get rid of my HDD's one of these days, got 2x 1TB SSD's in my desktop along with 1x 512gb Boot SSD. But still running my trusty old WD Blacks in Raid 0. I have 3x 640GB WD Black drives in Raid 0, bought them on sept 2009. Almost 10 years old now. Still have them in my system, and on their 3rd and last platform. My current install of windows 10 has been upgraded from back when it used to run windows 7 a platform ago(7>8>8.1>now 10) . So my old HDD's still get some use, but mostly are old game installs.

Going Ryzen 3000 when it drops. Keeping my SSD's, and will be moving to M.2 PCI-E 1TB SSD as a boot when I make the move. HDD's are going byebye.

But total believer in a NAS setup for long term storage. Never risk important data to a single disk loss. I run a Freenas setup and have a 20TB array (4x5tb&4x2tb), I can lose a disk in either of my two arrays (pretty much two raid 5 arrays in raid 0 in idea). I backup all my data onto this and all media is stored here.

I would look into a QNAP 4 bay setup, and run 4 drives of equal size in a raid5 (or something equal to what provides). As a future backup system, and to keep media on. Why risk anything important to you. Game data is easily replaceable.

SSD's are also pretty reliable compared to HDD's. My Blacks may have lasted 10 years, but I've had plenty of seagates fail before 2 years.

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Don't get a 970 Evo get a 860 Evo then you might be able to get a 2tb.

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Don't get a 970 Evo get a 860 Evo then you might be able to get a 2tb.
The 860 Evo doesn't seem attractive to me in terms of price/performance.
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The 860 Evo doesn't seem attractive to me in terms of price/performance.

Yea I would say just get any ssd with trusted brand name on it and it should be fine. Sata is the bottleneck for most ssds now anyway.

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