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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 08:08 AM - Thread Starter
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Intel SATA ports vs. AMD SATA ports?

I'm planning to upgrade my sig rig this year (linked for everyone on the mobile side). There's a chance I will get an AMD CPU, and so I have a question regarding SATA ports that are controlled by an Intel chipset vs. an AMD chipset. I'm not quite sure how to ask the question in my mind, so please be patient with me while I try to figure this out.

For the past ~11 years, I've had Intel systems and I've always made sure to use the SATA ports that are controlled by the Intel chipset so that I could take advantage of the performance benefits of the Intel Rapid Storage Technology AHCI driver. The generic Microsoft SATA AHCI driver is ok, but it's always noticeably inferior.

Other SATA controllers, such as the infamous Marvel 9128 SATA controller, suck hard and are always to be avoided if possible.

Before I took me extremely long break from OCN, I remember seeing AMD as an inferior platform in this regard, providing nothing that compares to SATA ports controlled by an Intel chipset driven by the Intel Rapid Storage Technology AHCI driver.

So, while I'd like to go with AMD so that I can get the Ryzen 5 3600X when it comes out, I don't want to end up wanting to make yet another purchase with my limited income to get an NVMe drive. I would like to keep my Samsung 840 EVO as long as possible because it's still awesome and is showing no signs of its age at all for me. It's truly still quite overkill for me, and I love that.

I guess what I'm asking is if all of this is still true, or if current X470 motherboards offer equal or perhaps even superior SATA AHCI performance.


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Slightly off topic but if all you do is game and nothing else dont bother with NVME its not faster or better in any way than AHCI for gaming so keep your old 840 Evo
Its one second faster at the most

As for AMD and how their chipsets control the SATA ports i cant help you with that
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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Slightly off topic but if all you do is game and nothing else dont bother with NVME its not faster or better in any way than AHCI for gaming so keep your old 840 Evo
Its one second faster at the most
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDQaE9N-eo&t=1s

As for AMD and how their chipsets control the SATA ports i cant help you with that
I have only built a single Ryzen system and it was not for me but a customer
Use NVME, it's the future.
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Use NVME, it's the future.
Are you going to pay for it? why would i buy an NVME drive when its not faster or better for my use case
I would much rather spend the same amount of money on an AHCI SSD with more space

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Are you going to pay for it? why would i buy an NVME drive when its not faster or better for my use case
I would much rather spend the same amount of money on an AHCI SSD with more space

What a pointless post to make
the only time i'd ever really consider NVMe as being necessary is for laptops, specially if the 2.5" HDD slot is already occupied with a high-capacity HDD.

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This has nothing to do with my question.


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Nothing i have seen seems to suggest that AMD is slower or worse when it comes to the SATA ports or the SATA controller
Did some digging around and did not found much so i could be wrong but what Intel seems to be better at is support for Optane

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I didn't notice any negative difference at all going from Sandy Bridge to Ryzen 2 on a B450 board.

SATA performance on par with drive specifications. I have a SATA M.2 drive and a standard cabled SATA SSD drive.

I think Windows 10 has kind of eradicated any weird driver issues there were with Intel and making sure the AHCI drivers were installed.

I know what you mean OP - I used to obsess about AHCI drivers all the time

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Quote: Originally Posted by tedman View Post
I didn't notice any negative difference at all going from Sandy Bridge to Ryzen 2 on a B450 board.

SATA performance on par with drive specifications. I have a SATA M.2 drive and a standard cabled SATA SSD drive.

I think Windows 10 has kind of eradicated any weird driver issues there were with Intel and making sure the AHCI drivers were installed.

I know what you mean OP - I used to obsess about AHCI drivers all the time
You can call me TwoCables instead of OP. I don't mind. Really.

So did you always make sure to have Intel's Rapid Storage Technology driver installed for your SSD?


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Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
This has nothing to do with my question.
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8...iew/index.html

https://www.techspot.com/review/1646...0-vs-amd-x470/


the first one has both NVMe and SATA SSD tests, the second includes CPU vs PCH lanes for NVMe.

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