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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 12:26 PM - Thread Starter
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Crucial P1 1TB ?

So i really need to get my system on a ssd again.. My 120gb ocz 4 which i had sense 2012 gave problems 3 months ago freezing and found it has 1 bad sector on it..

So cloned and i pop in a old wd 7200rpms 320gb laptop drive in and put the ssd as a spare for a game or 2 after i formatted it which seems to run fine... Just don't trust it for anything else and really i cant stand the small size anymore sense it was always 98% full and i had no games on it..

Its pretty tired to sense it does have over 80tb writes on it from what the software says...

But yea my system ryzen 1700 gigabyte k7 seems to not like hard drives... Cause it takes it good old time booting up when i need to restart it or what ever.. like 3 too 6minutes till it done loading.. while the old ocz took under a minute to the desktop.. I even tried and have this in wd 1tb 7200rpms thinking it was just the laptop drive but nope still the same.


So i was looking and found the Crucial P1 1TB 104$ and that's pretty much the max i can spend right now. Now i know it has QLC which is a problem when you write to it alot but pretty much its main propose is normal using it and gaming and im not going to be moving large files back and forth sense i have other drives that holds my stuff.

will it be good for normal use and gaming?
https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-1TB-N...s%2C122&sr=8-9
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than again i did some thinking... I was thinking of just getting a normal seta drive that's 512gbs for now and get a better NVMe drive maybe around black Friday or even Christmas when they have deals.

Cause really a 512gb sata would be fine for me right now and couple games and probably be more reliable than the crucial QLC memory... And also seems like it also gets pretty hot under load from what i read. and yea i have a 1080ti which is always under load and a 960gtx in this system and the m.2 is right between them...


Is this a good ssd https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power...s%2C136&sr=8-6
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NVME drives are not in any way better or faster than a drive using AHCI unless you will be working with and moving around large files on the drive
Gaming due to software limitations will at most load one second faster

Unless you will be working/editing or can find an NVME cheaper than an AHCI drive dont bother

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The Crucial P1 is excellent and offers a good bump in speed over a SATA model. I use 3 of them.

Can you realise that added speed that NVMe drives offer in the real world? Mmmm I'd say its noticeable when booting up, but not really anything else. Copy big files etc though and now you're talking.

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Just got the 512gb Silicon-Power for now and will wait for any sales on NVME drives maybe on black Friday or Christmas. Does give me a option to put this drive when im done with it in another system

This newer ssd should make a difference either way hell it should even perform alot better than my ocz 120gb ever did lol..
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No matter on difference between SSD M.2 NVme and SSD SATA III difference is visible.
Much less difference than switch from HDD to SSD but it's visible and in everyday use.

My honest suggestion to all gamers is to use some nice SATA III SSD 1TB for games and not less than 1TB M.2 NVMe for OS.
I mean 512GB is enough but 1TB is better. These stuff stay inside PC 5-6 years and 1TB is right choice.

And don't buy M.2 Heatsinks without screws or you could experience pure suffering.
I must admit installing EK M.2 Heatsink on M.2 was worse and most risky job I ever done with PC and I didn't success to install him.
After I check experience from customers on Newegg who bend M.2, fried M.2 people who need to remove EK Heatsink because M.2 didn't work with them motherboard couldn't read them because pressure I decide to put zip tie over him and soon I will throw him in garbage.
GPU fan on 50% cooldown M.2 on 55C in benchmark tests because my M.2 is right below GPU (RVE10). I didn't know that because fans on Poseidon not spin in idle.

I will throw in garbage evil EK M.2 heatsink advice you to buy Bitspower M.2 Armor if you need.
Difference between M.2 models from launch date of EK heatsink is at least 3mm, some of them have chips from both side, some of them have thick ceramic capacitors and thicker Controller and design is retarder, like people with Down Syndrome design him... No name heatsink from China are design with biggerd lucidity and accept all thickeness, even two M.2 in sandwitch if need with proper contact and without pressure.
Or WD SN750 with EK preinstalled heatsink will be right choice, but he was not available when I need M.2.
I delay buying M.2 and than I didn't want to delay any more to wait any new series, SN750 with heatsink or Samsung 980 or anything...

Heatsink is necessary for benchmarking of M.2, some models and only I could say is God thank you because ******** product didn't lead me to destroy M.2 1TB size.
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yea i really wanted to get 1tb nvme right now but that one i wanted went out of stock and went to 130$... for that much i figure i wait till sales happens and get a better brand like a samsung in the future

So far this 512gb sp drive performs great. over 500mbs and writes and finally my system feels snappy again and boots fast vs 3 to 6minutes with the crap hdd lol
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vlada011 View Post
No matter on difference between SSD M.2 NVme and SSD SATA III difference is visible.
Much less difference than switch from HDD to SSD but it's visible and in everyday use.

My honest suggestion to all gamers is to use some nice SATA III SSD 1TB for games and not less than 1TB M.2 NVMe for OS.
I mean 512GB is enough but 1TB is better. These stuff stay inside PC 5-6 years and 1TB is right choice.

And don't buy M.2 Heatsinks without screws or you could experience pure suffering.
I must admit installing EK M.2 Heatsink on M.2 was worse and most risky job I ever done with PC and I didn't success to install him.
After I check experience from customers on Newegg who bend M.2, fried M.2 people who need to remove EK Heatsink because M.2 didn't work with them motherboard couldn't read them because pressure I decide to put zip tie over him and soon I will throw him in garbage.
GPU fan on 50% cooldown M.2 on 55C in benchmark tests because my M.2 is right below GPU (RVE10). I didn't know that because fans on Poseidon not spin in idle.

I will throw in garbage evil EK M.2 heatsink advice you to buy Bitspower M.2 Armor if you need.
Difference between M.2 models from launch date of EK heatsink is at least 3mm, some of them have chips from both side, some of them have thick ceramic capacitors and thicker Controller and design is retarder, like people with Down Syndrome design him... No name heatsink from China are design with biggerd lucidity and accept all thickeness, even two M.2 in sandwitch if need with proper contact and without pressure.
Or WD SN750 with EK preinstalled heatsink will be right choice, but he was not available when I need M.2.
I delay buying M.2 and than I didn't want to delay any more to wait any new series, SN750 with heatsink or Samsung 980 or anything...

Heatsink is necessary for benchmarking of M.2, some models and only I could say is God thank you because ******** product didn't lead me to destroy M.2 1TB size.
thanks for that... I was looking @ that clip system n thinking it looked janky.
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EK M.2 Heatsink is Ultimate-Epic Junk. He is well build with nice heatsink and PCB but installation process would be abandoned from lucid company who take care for customers before production or after first installation
on M.2 with higher controllers. But EK didn't do nothing after they get complains from people about hardly installation and how risky could be for product.

Worse of all because company who build that didn't thought how many customers will destroyed their expensive M.2.
And that's very bad human habit. Companies who intentionally make things harder and more complicate and risky to customers looks like survive only in IT industry.

If someone need M.2 should go with Bitspower M.2 Armor or this heatsink...
This is probably best...

https://www.amazon.com/heatsink-Doub...GQ8WYK8KY03F3Q

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