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Need some help deciding on what to buy and use?

Currently have 2 ssds, one with os and other as storage. Both are samsungs. With a new build coming soon, I would like to maybe buy the new hard drive. Here's the thing. I have no ideal what these m2and other drives work or what applications to use them for. Could someone give me a crash course on these drives? Thanks.


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If you need mass storage buy a HDD if you need an SSD just for OS and games buy an AHCI SSD either 2,5 inch or M.2
If you need a drive for moving around large files and for editing and other heavy workloads buy an NVME SSD just dont buy a QLC drive

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M.2 is basically just the name for a small port that uses the PCIe lanes, which is much faster than SATA. SATA has become a bottleneck for SSDs and pretty much any decent SATA SSD will be bottlenecked by the SATA connection these days, so they made what is called "m.2" ports to basically bypass SATA and go directly to the PCIe lanes. I know m.2 is a funny name and its so funny its kind of confusing. There is no m.1 or m.3 so I have no idea why the weird name.

Separate from m.2, there is Nvme.

Nvme is the protocol that replaces SATA protocol (AHCI).

There are m.2 drives that use Nvme and m.2 drives that do not use Nvme. Any m.2 drive that uses Nvme will only work on a motherboard that supports Nvme, which has become a standard feature now but a few years ago there were some motherboards with m.2 ports but no Nvme support and this lead to a lot of confusion for a year or so with these drives. m.2 drives and matchboards that do not have Nvme support still use the SATA protocol which is slower, but not as slow as using the SATA protocol over the SATA connection.

If you are buying a new motherboard and a new m.2 drive they will almost for sure both have Nvme support so there should be nothing to worry about.



SATA connections top out at about 600 mbps.

m.2 connections that still use the SATA protocol (AHCI) can reach about 2-3 gbps.

m.2 with Nvme is basically as fast as PCIe, which is way more than any m.2 drive uses right now.


When you see M.2 followed by some numbers, like m.2 2280; the "2280" references how long the drive physically is. For a desktop they will all be the same. Sometimes there are shorter ones for laptops but for a desktop you don't need to worry about that part at all.

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AHCI is the protocol name for SATA

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
AHCI is the protocol name for SATA
Thats correct. Some motherboards just call it SATA protocol.

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Thanks everyone! I actually learned a few things. I will be giving reps soon.

So here is the million dollar question. If I wanted to use a single (1 tb at least) could I do that? I use 2 ssd's right now, one with the OS on it and the other for storage. My complaint although silly is that I put steam and origin on the bigger ssd. But some games I have will still put things like mods etc on the OS ssd.

What would you guys recommend as far as what drive to get? The plan is to wait for RYZEN 3000. But I would like to start getting some parts next week.

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Thanks everyone! I actually learned a few things. I will be giving reps soon.

So here is the million dollar question. If I wanted to use a single (1 tb at least) could I do that? I use 2 ssd's right now, one with the OS on it and the other for storage. My complaint although silly is that I put steam and origin on the bigger ssd. But some games I have will still put things like mods etc on the OS ssd.

What would you guys recommend as far as what drive to get? The plan is to wait for RYZEN 3000. But I would like to start getting some parts next week.
For normal OS use and gaming buy a Samsung 860 Evo or a Crucial MX500 both come in both 2,5 inch and M.2 versions so pick whatever of the 4 you want just note that the M.2 version will still use a SATA port

If you will be working with and moving large file sizes and other heavy workloads buy a Samsung 970 Evo or Pro if you want to spend the extra

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Personally as far as hard drives go I like my Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM drives, I have a 2TB one and its great for the $60 I paid for it, some people say Western Digital is more reliable but I've had Western Digital drives fail on me whereas I've never had a Seagate drive die on me. As for SSD's I would recommend a M.2 NVME drive mainly for Windows booting as you'll unlikely notice a difference in speeds for applications or games (depending on what you want to do with it), only way you'd notice a difference is applications that rely heavily on writes so like video encoding and working with large files, and massive open world games like GTA V. Other than that I would suggest a 1TB or 960GB SATA III SSD for most other storage needs as they aren't that expensive anymore.

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A Samsung 970 is a waste of money and if he is not doing anything that can take advantage of the speeds and OS and games dont and wont take advantage of NVME
The same amount can be better spent on bigger drive instead of speeds that are useless

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