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Which hard drive for reliable, long-term storage?

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I've only got two SSDs in my system right now - a boot drive and a game drive. No mechanical drives as of yet. I've got about 12TB of data from my last PC that I need to store, and I'm planning on storing lossless 2160p movies in the new drives. I'm thinking two 12TB drives, to begin with. I could go with three 8TB/10TB if that's more cost-efficient. Not looking to get RAID/NAS right now.

Which hard drives would be the most cost-efficient for around 24-36TB of storage? If it helps, I've come across the WD Ultrastar HC530, WD Red (/Pro), and Seagate Ironwolf (/Pro) that seem to offer capacities in the 10/12/14TB range.

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there's some issues with using that as the gospel for drive reliability (they're not a consumer doing consumer things) but they do generally make good recommendations.

Do you need a single drive or would you be okay with two? You can get two 6TB drives for less than a single 12TB. You could always use software JBOD if you just want a single drive letter but you'd still need to set it up and have the room for it and it might just be an added headache for you.

Toshiba X300/P300/N300 drives are great and they're generally some of the cheapest drives in just about every capacity. My X300 is the first Toshiba drive I've owned and I've been happy with it, though my sample size of 1 isn't super helpful though.

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I'd use external solutions for your "old data" (rarely accessed) as it'll save you a good bit of money.

as for internal - you can never go wrong with blacks. The only thing better are NAS solutions.

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I'd use external solutions for your "old data" (rarely accessed) as it'll save you a good bit of money.

as for internal - you can never go wrong with blacks.

+1

and if OP doesn't want external the majority are easy to shuck.

also obligatory: why it gotta be black?

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cuz once you buy em you never go back.

that WD 3.5 Hybrid black though... that is by far one of the worst mass production OEM drives ever made. They were like $20 a piece on amazon for awhile(1tb), because no one in their right mind would willingly buy one outside of a laptop.


and true, idk why pulling drives outta an enclosure never crosses my mind.

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post


there's some issues with using that as the gospel for drive reliability (they're not a consumer doing consumer things) but they do generally make good recommendations.

Do you need a single drive or would you be okay with two? You can get two 6TB drives for less than a single 12TB. You could always use software JBOD if you just want a single drive letter but you'd still need to set it up and have the room for it and it might just be an added headache for you.

Toshiba X300/P300/N300 drives are great and they're generally some of the cheapest drives in just about every capacity. My X300 is the first Toshiba drive I've owned and I've been happy with it, though my sample size of 1 isn't super helpful though.
As few drives as possible, please! I had to deal with 5 drives for a total of 12TB of storage on my last PC because I added the drives over time. This time around, I just want to get as few as possible and be done with it for a while.

As for price, I wouldn't mind lower-priced drives if it means I don't have to sacrifice any reliability compared to the flagship drives. Reliability is a concern since I'm not going with a NAS or RAID right now, so I need my data in safe hands, so to speak.

I'm going to need a bit of help with that data please. I see only one possible WD drive on there, and it's a 6TB one. Whereas I need to know about much larger ones.
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I'd use external solutions for your "old data" (rarely accessed) as it'll save you a good bit of money.

as for internal - you can never go wrong with blacks. The only thing better are NAS solutions.

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WD Blacks top out at 6TB though, right?

I don't mind NAS drives, especially if they can allow for a NAS setup later on. I just don't want to spend twice as much on storage for a RAID/NAS right now.
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+1

and if OP doesn't want external the majority are easy to shuck.

also obligatory: why it gotta be black?
Ideally not external please. That second chamber in my 680X is just laying there all empty. I don't want to let that go to waste!

Seriously though, I've also got four external WDs as well. And while they have served their purpose well when I needed the portability, I need all my data in one computer right now, and I can avert the clutter of another external drive if I just go full internal.

Not particularly comfortable with the concept of shucking, especially since I've come to learn about it a mere couple of hours ago. Besides, the much cheaper external drives can't possibly have flagship drives in them, right?

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+1

and if OP doesn't want external the majority are easy to shuck.

also obligatory: why it gotta be black?
What's a good [enough] cheapo drive for me to shuck. I need some extra storage for junk files actually. 2-4 tb will do

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Can I get better drives and/or prices than these?

Shortlist so far:
1. Western Digital Red Pro 12TB - $399 (Amazon US)
2. Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC530 14TB - $389 (Amazon US)

1. Which of these would you guys recommend?
2. Does the Red Pro not have something called a "data/error recovery" mechanism because it's a NAS drive (sorry if I got the name wrong)?
3. I don't suppose I can get a NAS setup with 24TB usable drive space for around $800, can I?


I will be getting two identical hard drives, and I need as much storage as possible without sacrificing reliability. Please let me know if you would recommend either of these or something else. And please do tell if you know a US store where I can source them for less than Amazon US.

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I just want to chime in for WD Black drives. I have had several, for nearly a decade now. One which indeed did show signs of early failure was replaced OOW by WD as a courtesy for $20 shipping and they sent me a new WD Black drive, double the size. Failed 500Gb in short term, replaced for the $20 shipping to confirm failed drive for a newly shipped 1TB in return.

That may not be the case for all or every experience and never should you give one example a statistical bump over a general rule-of-thumb. However, I am here confirming the rhetoric that WD Black drives are (in many peoples' opinions) very reliable, very reputable, and backed by a very customer-forward company.

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I just want to chime in for WD Black drives. I have had several, for nearly a decade now. One which indeed did show signs of early failure was replaced OOW by WD as a courtesy for $20 shipping and they sent me a new WD Black drive, double the size. Failed 500Gb in short term, replaced for the $20 shipping to confirm failed drive for a newly shipped 1TB in return.

That may not be the case for all or every experience and never should you give one example a statistical bump over a general rule-of-thumb. However, I am here confirming the rhetoric that WD Black drives are (in many peoples' opinions) very reliable, very reputable, and backed by a very customer-forward company.
Thank you very much for your response.

I'm very aware of the WD Black's long-standing reputation. However, the highest capacity they're available in is 6TB. Unfortunately, I'm looking for something that is 12TB or above to reduce the number of drives that I need to handle.

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