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how long does a spinny boi last

I have an HDD (WD Green 2TB) that has run 24/7 since 2013 and before that, 12 hours a day since 2011. Is this an usually long time for a hard drive to last? Seems like most HDDs I've had died after a few years. The Seagate that I had running along side it for example lasted barely over 2 years.

Doing the math that is:
77 months * 24 hours * 30 days = 55440 hours
24 months * 12 hours * 30 days = 8640 hours

So 64000+ hours total!

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Often times I've found either the drive will die within a year or two of new or it will continue running 24/7 for a decade like my 750 gig Seagate.

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I've got a 5.25" 8GB Quantum Bigfoot TX 4000 RPM drive that still works somewhere.

on time isn't really going to kill a drive unless you move the drive while it's powered on. abrupt power cycles without giving the drive time to park the head properly is going to kill a drive a whole lot faster, anyway.

I killed two HDDs in the first rig I built since I used a PSU included for free with the case but otherwise I haven't had a drive die since.

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about half that of your quality mid sized good boi, or about equal to giant tier good bois

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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
I've got a 5.25" 8GB Quantum Bigfoot TX 4000 RPM drive that still works somewhere.

on time isn't really going to kill a drive unless you move the drive while it's powered on. abrupt power cycles without giving the drive time to park the head properly is going to kill a drive a whole lot faster, anyway.

I killed two HDDs in the first rig I built since I used a PSU included for free with the case but otherwise I haven't had a drive die since.
Explains why my old laptops used to have HDDs die annually lol

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The good thing about HDDs is that they die slowly. You'll start getting bad and reallocated sectors, you'll start hearing some noises, and chkdsk might be making some major fixes to your drive (as well as getting prompts period). Other than that, just keep on using them. Keep them in good vibration-free environments, let them power down properly, keep the temperatures in a good range (my 22k+ hour drives are usually around 35-40C as are all the other ones), and write as least as possible.

If they do start to degrade, take action IMMEDIATELY.

This may do nothing as far as reliability goes, but I leave around 5% free space on all of my drives. Then again, I only write data to a drive one time (unless I reorganize which happens maybe once every 2 or 3 years), and once it fills up I get another one. So, even though they're high mileage, they're all highway miles lol.

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I've got a Quantum Fireball that still works stashed away somewhere.

My old codger Seagate has probably north of 80,000 hours of run time and I've used it for lots of read/write operations over that time. Works fine but I'd expect it to die abruptly any day now.

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The 850MB HDD that came with my first computer was a Maxtor (remember them? They had a terrible reputation for reliability) and apart from a period of ~3 years where it was stuffed in a drawer, did daily duty since 1996. I retired it when I moved, but until then, it worked 24/7 for 15 years. The 17.2GB Maxtor that replaced it in the desktop PC also (per my last test of it) still worked. But that was 4 years ago, so...

I've had five drives die on me. Two Seagate, two Western Digital and one Fujitsu which came in a refurbished laptop so I'm not sure it really counts.


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Post some SMART numbers from your drive. I asked a similar question recently. I have a WD20EARX that I use for backups but the load/unload counts are off the charts compared to any other drive I own 353311 compared to a manufacturer spec of 300000, it seems to be working fine but it is a concern that it is exceeded a spec that involves head parking or spin up and spin down. I never got a good answer and others have even larger counts, but I am interested how to use these utilization metrics to decide to replace a drive before it fails. My drives power on time from SMART is 43088 hours, almost 5 years.

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We have a few hundred systems at work and tend to keep them in service for 5 years or so.

By the 5 year mark my guesstimate is about 20% of desktops and 40% of laptops have suffered drive failures. The desktop failure rate is low enough that most home users with one or two PCs would be unlucky to have one fail.

There are, however, exceptions. For example around 15 years ago Seagate Barracudas (especially the 40GB ones) seemed to drop like flies for a few years before they got whatever the problem was sorted. As a result, even though current Seagate drives seem as good or better than anything else, we still tend to prefer Western Digital when buying legacy spinny disks at work.
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