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Getting back into HWBot... questions.

Hey all,

None of you remember me, but that's fine. I recently started to pull some hardware, my pot, and power supplies out of storage (still have a brand new DFI LANparty 790FX board that I am ready to put through it's paces) and started looking into getting back into the world of competitive overclocking, but a lot has changed since I "left" in 2017. Looking at the Challenger events on HWBot, I see a whole bunch of MHz limits on every event, where it becomes just a game of who has the most money for the fastest CPU out of the bunch (or the best luck), which is way not how it should be. If I spend forever browsing eBay and binning for a good chip, I want to use it and not have it sit well under it's maximum potential (seriously, most of the subs I looked at have a +10-15% OC on them... sad). I also saw that most competitions listed that subzero cooling is not allowed... so great, now my pot is useless too, just when i figured out where I could buy LN2. Funny how that works.

I know there's the ranking system for individual submissions, but the main thing to do on HWBot are these fun competitions. Does anyone have any idea why these changes were applied or share the same view point as me? Maybe I'm just "old fashioned" at this point, I'm not sure.

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How does a frequency limit in competitions become "a competition for who has the most money" though? it does the opposite. if a 7700K competition has a 5.0 all core limit then Joe Blow with a 7700K on a Cryorig H7 can compete with John Doe that has a 7700K with a warehouse full of liquid helium.

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How does a frequency limit in competitions become "a competition for who has the most money" though? it does the opposite. if a 7700K competition has a 5.0 all core limit then Joe Blow with a 7700K on a Cryorig H7 can compete with John Doe that has a 7700K with a warehouse full of liquid helium.
That's the other issue; most submissions have a CPU core limit and a socket limit, and if you don't have the best CPU for that exact socket with that exact core count, which involves buying a new/used CPU for $$$, then you are not able to compete. Meanwhile if you own a pot or even made your own, that's a one-time $100-200 investment for a solution that may let you use some lower-down chips and still hit a decent clock.

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You don't have to participate in these competition or challenger series. I don't find them interesting and don't take part. I enjoy trying to get golds with the hardware that I own. If I don't think i have a chance at a top score I don't run it. Things like Team cup are cool, but challenger isn't IMO.



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I have put subs into all categories of Challenger series for this first go around. My only focus though is the ProOC round as it allows ES and LN2.



The frequency limitations I don't mind, but for some of the 4, 6, and 8 core stages I think it should of been AMD and Intel having separate frequency limitations

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